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Well although I'm not pinning my hopes on, 'Trust me, I'm not a doctor.' if we did get relegated and go bust I don't see why we shouldn't land on our feet like we did before. Whereas with you someone can only make money by gaining promotion with us there is the additional possibility of redevelopment. so I don't see that our situation would be that different from when Milan took over and that didn't work out too badly for us. Still Al Fahim should be given a chance he may turn out to be good for the club if he.....sorry something pink just flew past my window.

Only 50 million. that's a relief I'm sure i read on here that it was 100m. One thing that has been concerning me is that a mate told me that some people in Southampton that look like Rupert are having plastic surgery. That made me put two things together. Firstly no one looks as much like rupert as rupert, has he had those rosy cheeks seen to. Secondly doesn't it strike you as strange that just when rupert disappears Al Fahim appears. Coincidence I thought. but then Neither of them had any real money themselves, both pompous. Is he Rupert in disguise? I'm looking for some reassurance here.

I'd expect another takeover within the year.

One could of course argue that the defacing of the name Rupert Lowe is also part of the history of the club as much as Rupert lowe himself. Iconoclasm such as Cromwell's boys emptying the royal mortuary chests at Winchester Cathedral does suggest that the civil war happened because the king managed to upset a significant number of people. In the same way Lowe may not have been too bad at financially running the club, but what the defacement suggests is that he upset at least one person to a fairly fundemental level. Suggest you leave it as is. On the other hand you did get rid of that lovely statue. Shame.

According to the Mirror quoting Storrie, it's not Al Fahim but an individual from a family in the middle east. I know you've got your ear to the sand Phil, any rumours out there as to who?

Closest we've come to two points this season

It seems Phil you're the only one prepared to answer the questions about saints, most of the rest just want to drivel on about Pompey. I think your figures are round about right that it's going to cost Mr L about 80 to get a return of 100-150 but there is of course no guarantee of a return. If for the sake of argument you are prepared to grant us a value of 125-175 it doesb't leave us any room for manouve if my estimate of 150 for new ground and squad maintainence is correct. we will see.

Agree with you about the small businessmen. Mr L is not with you to balance the books from profits generated from your consistently loyal fan base(What % fall did you have last year). I doubt if fan income would balance the books for the squad MR L inherited. The good news for you guys is that like Milan with us he is going to put in money to fund transfers and wages to get promotion which increases the value of the club which in turn gives him a profit when he sells up. SO seriously how much money do you think he will need to subsidise the club each year for your promotion pushes? And how much do you think the club would be worth in the three divisions-L1, champ and prem? I've just looked at your position in the table you better do L" as well.

So how much money is this old swiss guy going to blow over the next 4,5,6 years on the gamble of trying to get two promotions. Transfers and wages are not cheap. At the moment he's got in a manager that took his club down a couple of divisions, how much would he need to pay a decent manager? How much is Mr L going to bet?

I'd like to think you're joking but I suspect you're not. Why do you think the price at Newcastle has dropped from 400m to 80m? It's not just the loss of prem and associated income, it's the liabilities with players still on prem wages. So your 80m buys you a further 100m+ in liabilities. That's why it appears to be cheap but it's a poison chalice. Pompey is clearly a better bet. A more resonable comparison might be why not buy Stoke rather than Pompey. I think a lot of you are confusing cost with profit. If you buy Stoke now you have to pay full price for a premiership club. How are you going to make a profit? Sell more pies? Clearly with Pompey the question is can you make money out of building a new ground. If Billionnaires who are good at making money believe so, I doubt if you are right and they are wrong. But it hasn't happened yet and maybe it won't. If it is not financially viable to redevelop us, the club has little real future and you'd better start looking around for some new rivals even if you stay in div 3.

The answer is still the same-Money. If for instance you buy Stoke how are you going to make money out of it. It is already in the top division and has been developed. Better to buy either 1) A dump that are in the premiership and redevelop the place or 2) A division 3 club thats already developed but would be worth more if it was in the premiership. There's the rub the two clubs are attractive business propositions, one because it's a dump the other because it's unsucessful. Lieber could have brought a top division club but he didn't did he.

Well obviously money. You may have to spend about 150m in maintenance and building a ground but if you end up with a 40k ground with good access and 90% attenance you have something worth 300m. Rupert built you St mary's for similar reasons because it's worth more than the dell and can hold a greater capacity. You have to have the money first however the credit crunch put pay to Sacha. You make money by changing things. No point in buying us if you are going to leave the cow shed as it is. If these guys come on board it will be because they believe they can make money out of developing us, they'd hardly do it otherwise would they. We'll see if it happens.

I think this is just face saving. He is not rumoured to be one of the investors, although has links with Heims. I think Al F. will fade out just as quickly as he did at City. They don't need his money even if he had any, they are worth 50+billion between them. The hong Kong boys are used to working with western business cultures. Well it hasn't come off yet, we'll see.

Heims also joins board. Other consortium members Lee Shau Kee, Zhang Zhixiang, Martin Veisman, Staphan Quandit, Axel Oberwelland, Wolfgang Herz

Richard Li and Holger Heims. David Dein joins board. You heard it here first.

I can confirm that something may have happened but we are unsure what, who, why or how. If our ownership is split between Storrie and AL Fahim it will be a disaster. If that is the case get some throat medicine in You'll be laughing at our expense for the next couple of years. We seem to have swapped structures. Give me a single owner any day.

Latest name circulating Skatesville is Richard Li, but then again you had Paul allen. South Devon shirt watch Pompey equalise 1-1 (Three young guys in Exeter from IOW, Pompey fans but only one wearing a Pompey shirt.

Well that's pretty fair. There is a potential business opportunity in building the new ground but I think you need to throw £150m at it overall. If he's dependent on his £100m, it's not enough. I hope it all falls through. Meet the skate version of Pinnacle.

Sorry to interupt the bickering. Our position or Pompey's Seems to me you've got your Milan type owner who will eventually take you to the top division before he sells at a profit. I'm sure you'd be happy enough with that. Al Fahim takeover seems about to collapse. Latest rumour is David Dean to step in with perhaps eventually The Kazakstan guys who currenly owns a chunk of Arsenal. Now concentrate this time and post a few never happens? source? lOl and I heard usmanov is only worth a tenth of Liebuhr comments

Well it is an excellent forum. I'm not sure I'd go as far as you want and 'just have a pompey forum on here.' I think people should still be able to post stuff about saints.

I'm not resident it's more like a caravan stop over. He left because he got shoved down to number 11 due to the signing of Anthony Vanden Borre. you'll love him so make sure you catch the match highlights on Saturday Evening. Enjoy! Simples!

It happens every time. You get over excited and end up fighting each other. Now go and sit in the shade think about Southampton, swiss gnomes and disgusting honey chocolate.

Fly BE which is both of you isn't it? I looked at the badge and I'm pretty sure it was southampton. So that leaves you 1-0 up at the moment. Have to admit I'd rather see one of your shirts than yet another big four one. Exeter should be a tough match.

Just a quick update on the S.Devon shirt watch. Despite the hundreds of Arsenal and ManU shirts I finally saw a south coast one. a kid about 3 with a saints shirt on. Poor little blighter

I'm touched by the enduring fascination with all things Pompey on this board. Over 200 replies on this thread. One person is even praying daily for the ground to fall to bits and us to get relegated. He seems not to realise that the first part of his prayer has already been answered. As for the second part if you keep looking up at us you are all going to get very stiff necks. I think you should be content for us to stay in the prem until you manage to return, then we can have one of those interesting April matches like we did last time-Whoever loses gets relegated. Now that would be interesting.