saintjay77

Thats what worrys me and has done for the last few years. I know things should get better once they have bottomed out but I cant honestly say we have hit rock bottom yet.

Not sure why but I would put him above Wigley although I will probably get proved wrong on that one. It would be nice and I look forward to anyone at our club making a decission that goes on to be a good one. Dont give a monkeys who makes that decission anymore. just hope it happens.

But isnt there something in the rules that says something about keeping on subject? so far you havnt answered the question at the top of the thread so not sure why your even on this thread to draw an argument in the 1st place? Its also a bit rich asking for answers to your questions when you wont answer the one in the thread too IMO.

Sometimes I wonder what your smoking? Ages ago I commented.... not thretend.... commented that the lowey and wildey names you make up for everyone get on my tits as IMO they make your posts look childish and made in such a way as to wind people up. I dont lose any sleep over it and this is just an internet forum so i dont get overly excited by it but I thought I would try to let you know how i felt in the hope that you tried to find a better way to put your message across. you didnt so i ignored it. no biggy and i didnt feel the need to take it further. Its not my place to tell others how to behave or what to think. IMO I havnt even seen anyone bullying you on here either. A question was asked and you gave an answer to questions or statments that have been done to death on many other threads and wasnt even needed on this one. Johnny tried to tell you and you took it as him having a pop at you. As for showing colours regarding rupes????? Come on...... A question was asked regarding the manager and relegation and rupes wasnt mentioned so deducting what peoples views on rupes are because of that is crazy. Quite happy to have a beer with you as we are not all that far away from each other but dont see the point in anyone knocking sence into anyone unless you do try to put any kind of cream anywhere near my moobies thank you please!!!!

How did WGS CV look before us? How did Curbishly do before West Ham? How did Sam Allardyce do before Newcastle? Wotte was good enough to manage Holands under 21 team for a while too wasnt he? I have no crystal ball unfortunatly but I wouldnt put a bet on Wotte doing the business for us. However if.... i mean IF he can turn our team into a team that is hard to break down whilst we attack with speed and precission and scoring freely then why wouldnt any of us be prepared to give him the chance to carry on next season? Or should we get rid just because he is a Lowe man and all that is Lowe is really bad and can never be trusted? Just like a new stadium, cup final, europe and the highest league finish in the prem are all really bad things that lowe had his hand in?

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=2 Only snippet of info I thought was interesting was the last paragraph saying they have been trying a slightly different formation. At least Wotte is changing something if thats the case and not doing the same things to get the same results.

to be fair a question was asked at the begining of this thread and johnny has answered it. you came here to turn it into a slanging match about lowe and wilde being here while refusing to answer the question in the thread. I dont see what argument johnny has failed to back up?

TBH i dont pay as much attention any more. I know your a saints fan and want the best for the saints. I think we want the same thing in the end but I cant find argument that can agree with your way of doing it. no hard feelings from me.

lol the anti lowe camp must be really happy to have you and stanley on board.

I thought Pearson deserved the chance to carry on dispite not having a great record. Wotte has a similar task in that Survival will mean success (and surprise to many of us lol) If there are going to be new people at the top by the end of the season I do hope it is a clean sweep and a new board that will actually want to invest and take us forward. I dont think another game of musical chairs will do us any good what so ever.

I suppose anything is better than the current vision you get in the mirror then.

then why does he feel the need to post on it?

the anti's argument has gone down hill on this thread aint it? I thought Lowe was the one who employed the spin tactic and refused to answer questions. If the question was "Do you think Wotte will keep us up?" most of the board will probably say no. But TDD's question seems to have got a few Anti's knickers in a twist. lol

I know your views on Lowe and the others but this IMO is how more of us should be thinking. Those banging on about all the bad things Rupes is are just as guilty as him by doing exactly the same things he is accused of. Personally this dutch experiment might have worked better if we still had the finacial security the prem or even the parachute payments gave us, with a stronger team and some kids coming through that were better than what we have now. Im not sure if JP and Wotte would have been the chosen ones but it doesnt matter anyway. I would have liked JP to have been a success and I would be happy for Wotte to be a success. If he is then I would be happy for him to stay on no matter who is in at board level. Said the same about Pearson though TBH.

Exactly, Some of the accusations make the anti lowe camp look like they are using acts of desperation to get there point accross, when just having a go and protesting on the facts would be so much easier. MLT and Franny have both said there thoughts and neither go anyway near condoning or supporting the board so accusing them of having there arm twisted is ridiculas IMO.

LOL it gets funnier. MLT hasnt said that he thinks everything is great and Rupes knows what he is doing!!!! He has said that right now the fans need to concentrate on getting behind the team. He says he knows mistakes have been made at board level but right now there is bugger all that can be done and support is what is needed so we can hope to try to avoid relegation and administration again. if all you read is MLT is now Rupes butt buddie so cant be trusted unless he is slating the club then you are the one that is nieve my friend. read what he says, not what you want or think it might or could say.

OMG you couldnt make this up could you? Both are quotes in the Echo. Not on the OS. And Franny goes on about how he thinks the club should have got in someone from elsewhere instead of from within so if the Club are using him then I guess they will want him in for a telling off ASAP.

of course they have why is it any bit of bad news/rumour is 100% fact and should be believed without question yet when someone speaks out without slating those in charge its all a PR exercise or Lowe and the board have twisted someones arm? why cant quotes be taken as facts from these people?

and this sums up why things are so much worse for saints. What Le tiss said is obvious to everyone except a large portion of saints fans who think that by protesting and having a go at everyone things will get better because the people at the top will just give up and walk out. fact is we are no closer changing things at the top by putting our angry faces on as we are by chipping together to buy some shares. i cant see how us all getting behind the team no matter what will suddenly make us world beaters but im sure it will do the team better than us all singing swing lowe and fighting between ourselves. for the time being the best thing we can do IMO is support the team and at least try to do our bit. If someone with 20mil turns up and seriously trys to buy the club, then is the time to turn against those running the club and get us sold as quick as possible.

I think the quote thingy got messed up bud. I was agreeing with you. Im not 100% sure on what Lowe was doing and when but I am also not 100% sure how much all things wrong at SFC are down to him. Quite happy to have a go at him for his failings but saintrichmond :cool: will have a go at him if McGoldrick misses a penalty with no keeper.

It really isnt worth arguing with him mate. Its got to the point where I dont even read his posts anymore because they just say the same things. Except when things are looking better and he hardly posts then. Its like he is waiting for something to go wrong so he can bang the "i hate Lowe drum" again and again. If its true that Lowe is on holiday at the moment then JP stepping down and Wotte taking over is a decission taken by the board and at best a phone call would have been made to get Lowe's vote. Yet its obviously Lowes fault that this dicission has been made. I will be amazed if I ever see a post of support from SaintRichmond :cool: or one with any idea of another direction we can take.

So if he came out saying he has always wanted this job you would have slated him for conspirering in the back ground to make sure JP failed so he can get the job!!! His words are more of a diplomatic way of saying he is not at fault for JP leaving. 7 months ago the club could have approached him and said they want JP at the top but want Wotte for another job. He said yes so was never competing for the top job.

Just trying to play devils advocet a little above. Im sure there are loads of questions we would all like answers too but putting them up as a serious thread from someone who usually gets a fair bit of respect on here doesnt IMO do any one any favours. I dont get what part of SFC being in the Pooh people dont get? If the others involved at the club had a better way forward they would dump Rupes on his arse and do what they can. The fact that Rupes is still with us says to me that there isnt much other option right now.

lol I always knew Dyer was class!!!! Well at least he has given us something to smile about this season.

and he didnt even correct the spelling mistakes!!!! its an outrage I tell thee!!!!