saintjay77

Gillett Sounds like he has gone for 4-3-3 after all

yeah admitedly it would be totally against the run we have had in the rest of the season but just think there is something in this one and we will get the result. Wont be suprised if we lose though

You think he is on Rupes pay roll now?

lol after the abuse that has had over the past 4 months it would be quite funny to actually win based on that formation. Normally going up against 10 men I wouldnt be too confident but I have a good feeling about this one and think we will draw level and then bag another 2 to get a good win.

We did on Saturday

queue the mac abuse :cool:

still on a phone in though. will they be going to the game live i wonder?

its back

nice one Art. I got no idea what they saying at the mo cause it sounds like they talking a different language but Im guessing it will be easier when the phone in has finished lol

So I gave 3 or 4 maybe's and you take 1 and still dont even get that one right? Saga, Rasiak, John and Skacel had all been loaned out which would have saved us x £'s right? AD got sold which also saved us more £'s right? I dont know the ins and outs of things but IMO there is no way the club would have brought in the dross that they have for the same cost as they have loaned out so IMO the wages saved far exceed the wages that the loanee's coming in have cost us. Come on we are talking about Rupert friggin Lowe FFS!!! When has he ever spent big on players and wages? Im not saying what came in was any good or wasnt a further waste of money but in 1 breath people have a go because Rupes wont spend money and in the next breath he spends more than we have saved.

I guess they can when the loan window opens but im not sure its open to everyone. Would be a nightmare if ater keeping our squad together in the window we go and arse it up by loaning any of our better players to those we are in a relegation fight with.

I am not excited when i look at the league either and to be honest I expected us to be a little further up. I didnt expect us to be in a relegation fight but I also didnt expect us to be pushing for play offs. Had we not shipped out our 3 decent strikers we might not be able to fend off any silly offers for our players this January. Or maybe we would be sitting below Charlton -10 points with any remaining half decent players jumping the sinking ship as that man with the funny voice trys to please our creditors? maybe we would have scored the goals we needed and our defence were magically improved by keeping those strikers and as such we didnt ship 20 odd goals? Fact is we are where we are and this jan has been marginally better than what was expected.

Has that worked for us in the past? Not trying to be funny but look at the past 5 years and we have tried to rely on has beens and older heads and it hasnt exactly got us anywhere. Whats wrong with trying something different? JP got the mix wrong but Wotte seems to be trying a different blend of youth and experience. He still wants to bring the kids through and build our team from the acadamy but not alienating the older heads seems to have been a good start to helping the kids out. If the team are doing the business by the end of the season and we are safe whilst using a couple of un-known hungarian national belly dancers would you then concede that the options we have taken do have some millage in actually trying to take us forward?

Fair enough there may have been better out there but Maleneux (spel?) has looked OK in 1 game and not so good in another but he has only been here a short time so I am prepared to give him a little longer. Size has turned out to be OK so far and we havent even seen Zoltan play yet so cant honestly say if he will be any good or not yet, although I concede my hopes for him are not that high. But what part of not being able to recall our loan players do people not get? If a player gets loaned for 1 month from anywhere then the parent club are not alloud to recall him. Its in the rules FFS! Not something that Lowe has messed up on. Its the same for every club. If that loan is extended for a further month that is when the recall clause kicks in. Again its the same for every club!!! Our loaned out players are all still in there initial loan period and there for stuck in there agrement. We are unable to recall them even if we wanted too. Maybe it wasnt a bright idea sending Dyer, Rasiak or John off on a long term loans but to be fair we are in a bit of a finacial hole at the time and no doubt the clubs they were going too had something to do with the length of the loan too. When they were loaned out though many accepted that it was to save money as it was Crouch who loaned out Rasiak and they accepted losing Dyer as he was arse and wasnt fit to wear the shirt, many were a bit miffed when we let John go too as we had nothing left in the tank but it could be that these decissions meant we were able to keep hold of our squad in this window and not beesn forced to accept ridiculas offers.

I was understanding where you was coming from to a point untill that last bit. The situation we are in puts us into a position where we havnt got money to spend so we were no-where near having a chance to buy any real quality. At the very best we would take a punt on an unknown which is exacty what we have done IMO. So as far as realistic expectations we have done the best we can do. We have kept hold of all our players and even added a few. Will the squad be good enough to keep us up? Will find out over the next few weeks I guess. But if its not good enough then Admin will surly follow relegation. At least we can say the club tried can we not?

And if we somehow manage to avoid relegation and actually start to pick a few points up which way will the slide be heading then? EDIT: Not sure how you manage to do it Stanley but you have managed to take yet another thread completly off topic. I wonder how many of your posts on this thread alone have actually commented on Zoltan? But if you are going to keep it off topic can you let me know next weeks Lotto numbers please as you seem to know all about what is coming?

IF no-one has left no doubt it will just be a ploy that Rupes is using to make sure he has more assets to strip when he throws his and the other shareholders money away when he takes us into Admin on the day that the team make us mathmatically safe just so that he can stick 2 fingers up to the fans that hate him so much. Read between the lines...... Its all there

The counter argument to that is of course that the team has been decimated due to the need to reduce costs or else we go into admin. It is something that Lowe should have done each time a new manager brought in the next bus load of mercenaries, and something Wilde should have done when he removed Lowe, its also something Crouch should have done when he had his brieff spell at the top. But its something that none of them did while we still had a decent revenue coming in and something that is all the more drastic now because ot it. We really cant do anything at all about the Loaned Strikers or Dyer as they are all in there initial loan period and as such cant be recalled. Had any of them finished there initial loan period and had there loan extended then we have the option to recall them. Time to get over that one me thinks.

Compared to JP I agree with you but the jury is still out on Wotte IMO. 1st impressions I would put them at about the same level but that impression may change depending on how we cope with the rest of the season. Wotte has only had 2 games and it took Pearson a few more before the results started to change.

Did you really expect to see anything substantial after reading who posted it?

Not that I am condoning the baiting from JFP as IMO its just as bad as the constant love in Stanley has with Rupes but to answer some of your points, Could it be that by not keeping pearson, Loaning out our best players, Cheap coach brought in and playing the kids instead of the high earners has actually saved enough money to put us in a situation where we dont have to sell off the jewls at knock down prices? Personally I wouldnt say it gives Roupes the thumbs up but I am a little happier that we are not weeker going into the rest of the season. Its going to be hard enough battling relegation as it is so to actually add to the playing staff rather then lose some of it has got to be a plus for the club right?

OK the sstuff in the echo should never have gone to press but like you say that has been discussed many times. But Skacel doesnt seem like he is the one the club would be looking to offload. If anyone it would be JE if he is on that much a year would it not? And as for what Wotte has said why is that so wrong? We have a player that wants away and only put effort in when he thought he would be in the shop window, now that window has past and he didnt get his move away is his head straight? does he want to be here? Wotte has also said that he will speak to Rudi and when he wants back in the team he is welcome. He is no mug and knows that we need decent players to try and help us out of this mess. But whats the point of playing someone that wants to play somewhere else? Just cant see how the club can get a bashing for that TBH.

I thought it was bloody funny personally. Gross but bloody funny lol

this is very true and it is about the same percentage of Lowe Luvies that i also laugh at. The other 98% of fans are more than capable of thinking a variaty of different things and hold a meaningful debate. Something that the 2% seem in capable of doing yet somehow get the most time from many of the 98%.

I must have missed that bit. Any chance you could point me to a link please?