saintjay77

So when is this supposed to happen?

For the 1st time in a very long time we have actually got a majority of the shareholding pulling in the same direction. 2 of the 3 main shareholders and those that proxy there shares too them agree that this direction is the best chance we have either to stay afloat or the way they may be looking at it, to protect there investment. Either way its the same thing IMO. Crouch is no longer arguing about the direction we are taking and has gone on record to say that he would be going in the same direction while there is no external funds available. Crouchs only other plan is to find a buyer. So far all he has found has not been able to get over the 1st hurdle of providing proof on funds. At the end of the season if all 3 sit down and agree to work together pushing in the same direction where will you stand then? IMO not allot will have changed as I will still want a buyer that clears the lot out but in the mean time would you accept that the whole board are at least trying to do what they think is rigiht for the club even if it doesnt fit in eith what you think is right? Its all well and good saying that Lowe is the divisive figure, but Wilde got rid before and quickly became the current divisive figure as he couldnt deliver. Crouch got golden treatment by many because he was more fan friendly but had his decissifons taken us into Admin and had we not recovered then his decissions would have cost much more than anyone elses. Its hard tmo say how close we were to admin with him here as different storys say different things but the above theory could have happened and we could all now be on the RIP Saints web Forum. Current lot are knobs but however badly they may do things IMO they are still trying to save our club either for the clubs benifit or there own. I dont really care whos benifit it is really as long as our club survives.

But there are no clubs anywhere in the world that can look back over 27 years and say they have made a nice pot of money and its all still in the bank. Real Madrid got bailed out by the king of spain or somit, Man U run there club based on a huige debt, Liverpool are the same, Chelsea and Man City inherited there money but are currently running at a loss yet all of these clubs are run by hugly succesful businessmen that have the funds available to ride debt and live with it. We have moderatly succesful businessmen that dont have the cash to get us out of this mess so hard decissions get made. Running the club as a PLC was a decission that was made years ago and at the time probably had enough arguments Pro the idea to make it happen. Current climate enough people suggest it is more of a noose round our neck. But the same can be said of those clubs running on a huge debt. Right now with interest rates low its not a bad thing to be doing. But when the financial climate revovers the interest rates will surly go up and these big clubs will be hurting. So what might work now will not necisarrily work later. We are simply caught at a point where our system is not helping us right now.

IMO I would rather us go out fighting than throwing in the towel. I expect if we dont beat the drop then administration will surly follow and next season will be a bigger fight than this but 10 points down next season is not that far adrift and I think with the right team and set up a play off place should not be too great an ambition. Remains to be seen if we would boe able to have that right team and set up but I dont think its beyond our capabilities

Thing is, the expence accounts that many have moaned about were not given the green light by Lowe and his lot but by those that ousted him. And as for divedends, They only get paid out when we do well as a company. It gets on my tits a bit that money in the club is leaving the club but thats the way the set up is and we have to put up with it. I doubt there are many investors in football clubs that havnt done it to get something out although not many actually come out on top.

So you read that and saw what you wanted to? Lord whats his face said that the recession has not yet effected football clubs as there deals had been signed in the good times. So your right that our current problems are not caused by the recession. But no-one was saying they were. The recession will compound our problems and could well help finish us off but cant be blamed for our downfall. There is a very long list of reasons that contributed to our downfall and yours are coming from the long list of ITK's and rumours as usual. No-one wants to invest without getting something back so I doubt Rupes disuaded many people coming to give cash for nothing. I also doubt Rupes agreed LM's expence account either. And what of the orange one that Wilde brougt? How will things suddenly be so much better should Rupes be gone?

I need money

blimey. are season has been so bad i forgot to think positivly and just presumed ours would be worse.

I actually think we have a better chance of getting something at Wolves than anyone down our end of the table. We do arse against teams that are looking for a point but better againsts teams that go for a win. well usually we do anyway lol

3 - 0 would unless our goals for are better than Plyms.

Score Centre on sky sports should be up to date

any radio link other than saints tv?

no way ill have the cash by the end of this month

I thought there was a forum rule about starting new threads on the same subject? Yet Stanleys threads dont get locked?

At least this one is not being dressed up and a question that can only be answered 1 way in the mind of Stanley. For what its worth, The fans were united when Rupes was here last time. There was no division. They all thought he was a cok and wanted him out. Unfortunatly he was replaced with no better and then again more mistakes by the future replacements. The fans are still united as the majority still think Rupes is a cok and still want him gone. The division comes in the form of the 2 camps who beleive in different alternatives. In that some say there are no better at the moment and others say there are. So Lowe + Wilde + Crouch + lack of billionare + Tossers on the board + Money + rubbish results + Relegation fight + many other things = A Diveded club Must be too complex for Stanley to grasp.

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Mate Ill play in friggin ice skates if I have too. I might even go behind in my mortage to play 45 mins so scrounging a pair of boots off someone shouldnt be a problem. Wonder if the players wouldnt mind lending a few pairs out? lol

LOL brilliant

I think they have all been guilty of putting there egos 1st but fair play to Crouch for his latest angle and Rupes would do well to learn from it. We might actualy get a united board who are short term trying to make sur the club survives and long term looking to sell it tto someone who can really take us forward. Ive seen that film with Father Christmas and I know that Miricles can happen!!!

Prediction and fact are 2 different things. I doubt there were many that thought this season wouldnt be a struggle no matter who was in charge. My prediction was it would be a close shave but I was hoping that this crazy plan of skilful un-known kids might surprise a few teams and we would at best reach mid table. My prediction is still achievable as we could still just about avoid relegation. The whole point about playing the kids and not the high earners was to combat the club losing more money than its making in a bid to avoid administration. If we dont go into admin then it would apear that plan worked but its not rocket science to realise that you would not accept that and just slate it as one of Lowes crazy ideas.

I wasnt having a dig at you alps and tbf your posts dont often wind me up. Would be nice if you were a little more optomistic at times but I read your posts for what they are rather than jumping up and down like some others because of what they think you might be trying to say. I was simply making a point. Both sides have there tedious automated responce imo. I dont know how mnay times I have read that we have gone into admin or have been relegated already but im guessing its the same ammount of times as the so called happy clappies blame our problems on the anti's or attendances. So your point can stand on both sides. In reality though there are very few people that are on the extreme sides and warrent the Happy clappy or luvvie or pillow biters or any of the other labels. Most people in SMS and here just want things to get better no matter who is calling the shots. If a better solution than the current one turns up then that will get more support than the 2 sides have at the mo. until then most are just gritting there teeth hoping for something better.

Stanley if we trusted you we would be relegated already and in administration 3 times with no team at all. I havnt seen anything you say to be good enough info to be trusted.

Why just mention the Happy clappies? some of the Anti's are just as loud mouthed are they not? Dont think everyone is resigned to relegation either although I doubt there are many that are happy we seem to be heading that way. Being worn out by the constant cok ups the club make time and time again is probably closer to the truth imo It would be nice if the club could lay all its cards on the table honestly so we can see how things really are. But even if the club was completly honest someone would snipe from somewhere about something so it will never happen. I just long for some decent football so we can take our minds off the incompitent board/s we have had over the last 5 years.

To be fair there are probably plenty of kids tipped for greatness and disapear but I still thought there is enough about Dyer to get more than 500k for him. He has had to go to Swansea to prove he has some tallent but there is no reason why he couldnt do well in our set up which would surly increase the price? pallace missed out I reckon but then does Warnock seem the type of manager that would get the best out of Dyer?

Only 500k? For someone that was tipped to end up better than Theo half a mil seems pretty cheap. Hopefully he will show some of that promise when he returns and we can get more for him than 500k