miserableoldgit

Seems like a pretty cool guy to me! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wzyT9-9lUyE

I believe that they were given Andrew Sachs number because they were supposed to be doing an interview over the phone. When they called Sachs was not there and they got the answering machine. At this point the "schoolboy humour" took over and the rest is history. For the record, I actually like JR, although I can take or leave RB (too much reliance on sex and bodily functions from both of them though) and although I have Sky "Everything" I probably watch more BBC than anything else. I have no axe to grind one way or the other. To me it is just about what is and isn`t acceptable behaviour. IMHO, what happened to this ageing grandfather (regardless of who he is) goes beyond the bounds of acceptability. This was pre-recorded and could have been pulled by the Beeb and no-one would have known.

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Can we make a dinstinction between a prank (a planned action to elicit laughter albeit at someone elses expense) and two rich "lads" being unable to control themselves, not worrying about the results of their actions, and thinking that they cannot be touched. Is this "quality" broadcasting ( whatever your definition of "quality" is?

Then you, presumably, are not Andrew Sachs, because I expect he found it f***ing hilarious!

If my memory serves me correctly, didn`t Nick Illingsworth make some cryptic remark about something happening re:- Fulthorpe/takeover on 31-10-08 (today - and it`s a Friday!!!!).

But it does effect your life. This is all about acceptable standards of behavior and respect for other people both of which are on the decline. It is about quality of life and how we all interact with each other. If you are happy the fact that people can say whatever they want about in any manner they want with any repercussions then thats your problem. Sadly, in this country, selfishness rules ATM. As long as I can do or say what I want, I don`t care what effect it has on anybody else. F**k everyone else!!

So, if you or someone close to you was suffering from some horrible, possibly fatal disease, and someone else made fun of you, then that would be O.K. would it? Because its true? Or would that be different? My argument on this is that these two, who I normally have no major problem with, acted like a couple of out of control, priviledged public school boys on nightclub crawl. They thought that they couldn`t be touched and can do whatever they want. It certainly wasn`t comedy, it was a form of bullying against an elderly grandfather with no thought whatsoever for his feelings. i couldnt careless about the social implications.... Sadly this one statement says a lot about peoples general attitude in society today. "I couldn`t care less"

So, if you or someone close to you was suffering from some horrible, possibly fatal disease, and someone else made fun of you, then that would be O.K. would it? Because its true? Or would that be different? My argument on this is that these two, who I normally have no major problem with, acted like a couple of out of control, priviledged public school boys on nightclub crawl. They thought that they couldn`t be touched and can do whatever they want. It certainly wasn`t comedy, it was a form of bullying against an elderly grandfather with no thought whatsoever for his feelings. i couldnt careless about the social implications.... Sadly this one statement says a lot about peoples general attitude in society today. "I couldn`t care less"

Quite agree. He was all over the pitch tonight. Hope he keeps it up. Strangely, Jimmy Case on Radio Hants said he wasn`t very good and should have been taken off!

Im Sorry?!! This is not a "couple of knocks! This is becoming the culmination of 5-6 years of complete dross. Inept displays on the field(during and after the relegation season), boardroom shenanigans that , if they were put out as a soap opera on TV wouldn`t be believed, are just 2 reasons why.

I shall be there as always, and I shall support the team during the match BUT if we have yet another inept display (and God knows there have been enough of those over the last 4 years), then I will bloody well moan!!There is a big difference between being positive and being realistic. I like many others have had any trace of positivity knocked out of me over the years. This is Saints we`re talking about!:mad:

Vulcan 607 by Rowland White. True story of the Falkland War. Riveting stuff.

Fotheringay 2. Wonderful. The immortal Sandy Denny.

The new album Matachin is superb! They are very exciting live. Have seen them 3 or 4 times as well as Jon Boden (who went to Henry Beaufort School in Winchester) and John Spiers as a duo. Wonderful stuff!

I seem to have forgotten his numerous successes. Could you just run them past me again? Many Thanks.

Perhaps they will appoint Glen Hoddle!

I am not sure that it makes him a crap manager but it would seem to indicate that he can only get success with lots of money. When he left West Ham they had one of the biggest wage bills in the PL. By all accounts he has left Poopey in a similar position. His time at Saints would appear to indicate that his management skills are less when he has a much reduced budget to work with. Does this make him a good manager or a crap one? There are any number of managers who have moderate success without spending 6m - 12m (and accompanying wages) on players.

Quite right. ANY manager would, and you can`t blame them for doing so. It is the job of the Chairman/Board to control the Managers spending and release the cash at the RIGHT time. Rupert just didn`t seem to want to do this for the Managers (for 1st team strengthening), although he did spend a lot of money on peripherals. Simply, relegation is the cause of our current financial plight and there is a school of thought that Lowe is to blame.

Some will say that Harry spends money like water (if not controlled) to achieve some success, but that Rupert did not spend enough, when he should have done, (after F.A. Cup Final) to ensure the we not only stayed in the PL, but to move us up to the much vaunted "Next Level".Unfortunately this led to relegation, which was the cause of our money problems. In other words a manager (esp H) will just keep spending as long as he is being fed money, but the Chairman has to know when to release money in a "speculate to accumulate" sort of way.

Interesting. Are you saying, therefore, that Harry is the equal of GH?:confused:

Probably leaving Poopey with an unsustainably high wage bill (as he did at West Ham) after paying big transfer fees for some ordinary players (Nugent 6m??). It will be interesting to see what happens when the transfer window opens in January. Yes, they have had some measure of success, but so did Leeds Utd.

When Saggychops was in Portugal at the end of last week, he hinted that he was going to try and hi-jack Beckhams move to Italy. Poopey fans must have been very happy. Pity that he meant that he wanted him at Spuds, because he must have known that he was going to WHL even then! These things don`t happen overnight.

Oh! And of course the infamous remarks re:- " wonderful radio station, world class catering, and top-class academy".

"We have the strongest squad that we have ever had" - at the beginning of the relegation season.