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has to be a good idea, as long as the only people who benefit are SFC and the City, not Lowe or SLH shareholders. I wouldn't have clue wether the council has enough dough though. I was surprised at how many councils had shed loads of cash in Icelandic banks, mybe buying SMS and renting it back could be a half decent investment in today's climate?

I don't know them personally so couldn't tell you, I just get the impression haf of them seem just happy to be pros when they should be ****ed off at being complete ****e.

This place is full of all sorts of crap, we even had some gimps at the start of the season backing this dumb Dutch plan. I agree about the manager though, if we are being forced to play kids (15 players brought in means we were not) then it was absolutely vital to bring in an experienced manager + coach. Someone who knows the Championship back to front and can spot which players are up to the job straight away. Also an experienced manager would give the right players a kick up the ass and the right players a bit of encouragement.

I think the problem with most of our young players is that they are just happy to be a proffesional footballer. Win, lose or draw it makes little difference, they can still **** it up round town with their mates as billy big ******. In a way getting relegated could be a good career move for half of them, at least they can play at being a pro at more their level next season. If we stay up and a real manager comes in, most of them know it will be "do you want fries with that" pretty soon.

No chance

This has to be the winner!

With a manager who talks complete ****** like this our players have no chance. Imagine coming in at half time after being dicked all first half and all the clueless Dutchman can say is "We have to score a goal, that's our problem".

Usually I'm ****ed off about a Saints defeat but it's got to the satge where it's just the norm. It comes to the point where you've been kicked in the nuts so many times one more makes no difference. this club is only going one way whilst lowe and these Dutch clowns are here - all that matters now is getting rid of these ****s.

If we can't stay above Charlton we are down regardless, it's good that plymouth are losing IMO.

lol

Lowe's idea is the spectacular failure we virtually all knew it would be. I don't even think it's the percentage of young/inexperienced players that is the problem, or the players signed/let go/loaned out. The only problem is not letting a football manager be in control of all the above descisions.

Wotte talks more crap than Poortvleit. That is some achievement. Every time he opens his gob he just confirms what we all know and why he is unsuitable for the job - he knows jack **** about the Championship.

I think we will get slaughtered, Wotte's honeymoon period (1 point from two home games) will be over.

What a load of ******, everything you mention is a consequence of a badley managed football team not the cause. Football fans will always behave in the same way in those circumastances at any club in the country - you are balming the clubs demise on the nature of football supporters - what a load of crap. Saints fans have behaved way better than many other would had their club been on the receiving end of Lowe's bizarre experiments.

If we don't win against Bristol City and results go against us then it is pretty much nailed on. Then we wont have to bother getting behind the team and we can focus on getting rid of Lowe and Wilde. The one small good thing about going into admin will be watching those ****ers lose every penny they had in the club. Lowe has well and truely screwed us over this season.

All this protesting is just all too little too late as far as Championship survival is concerned, it all over bar the maths IMO. Our only (very slim) hope is if this Wotte bloke defies all logic and actually inspires the team to safety, all we can do is pack SMS and give the lads as much backing as possible. We need a plan for what to do when the inevitable is confirmed and what to do at the start of the league 1 campaign.

Shame, Tony Adams is a completely ****e manager, he would have took them down.

Havn't Plymouth been forced to sell loads of players? I expect Sturrock has had less to work with than our bunch of monkeys.

The thing is if I were a pro footballer and some chavs came up to me giving me grief I would tell them to **** off. I expect BWP and McG just gave as good as they got - rightly so IMO.

Like I said, if there is evidence, it could all be ******, I find it hard to believe Lallana would be made to cry but what someone said. Sounds like stuff made up by lads on the **** to me.

Drunken stories are nearly always exaggerated, I expect this guy shouted abuse at them and they threw a chip at him or something. Unless there's any evidence it's not worth wetting your pants over.

You're right, some of our players shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. But the fact is they have been thrown in at the deep end when many of them are not near ready. They shouldn't be in that situation but thanks to Lowe they are - do you think it encourages them to express themselves when every time something they try does not come off they are given vile abuse?

We all knew this season would be hard but the frustrating thing is that we could be comfortably mid-table with the right management. Some of the youngsters have proved to be OK, we've had the resources to bring in 15 players. Even an average manager could have kept us up with well organised, motivated small squad of players, instead we've had the usual Lowe inspired manager merry-go-round and his usual interferance on player signings.

Lowe could easily have resigned and left without a massive pay-off. And he could easily have returned without insisting on a wage (didn't Leon Crouch work unpaid?).

But maybe some of our players are the type to run off stage scared sh*tless? I which case booing and hurling abuse is not going to help them, no? Maybe in the long run giving abuse will toughen them up, but the long run isn't important, the only thing that's important is getting 3 points at home each game.