aintforever

Awful idea, would be the final nail in the coffin for many League 1 & 2 clubs, like us. If this happens I will just not bother with football anymore, Sky's money has ****ing ruined it enough, this will just be the final straw.

Most of our debt is the stadium.

Oakley's a good shout, so much depends on what's left of the club after admin and who owns us though it's impossible to know what players would be suitable.

We could be in the same league as Morecambe.

I can't believe he couldn't have set up a meeting with the bank a week or so before the deadline, showed them the figures and come to the obvious conclusion that admin before the deadline is the only option. Barclays had nothing to gain by putting the club in even further ****e, we have basically written of next season before it's even started. Barclays would have been fully aware of the deadline and what it meant. It's either spite or Lowe's game of "hardball" went horribly wrong. The thing is if he was calling the banks bluff he had nothing to lose but the club had everything to lose.

But the banks are going to lose out because the club they are trying to flog is going to be worth alot less than one that could potentially get promoted straight away.

It is the timing I was on about, there is no logical reason why Lowe should wait a few days when he knew the state of the accounts, he knew the situation with Barclays, he knew what cheques were due to go out. Other clubs have managed to time their admin at half time of a specific game of the season, they had overdrafts and debts like us. What exactly was stopping Lowe filing on the 26th of March and not the 2nd April?

Putting us into administration just 1 week after the deadline which meant we would have any points deduction this season? If we had filed for admin on the 19th March we would still be relegated but be in a much better position knowing we had a chance of going straight back up, now we will face another relegation battle next year and any prospective buyers will lose interest knowing we have at least 2 years in div 3. I can't think of any other reason why Lowe would wait a few days when the consequences are SO serious - League 2 and doing a Luton is a very real possibility now. IMO he had to do it just to spite us, other shareholders like Crouch and Corbett, and probably the bank.

Of course the players take most of the blame, but when virtually the whole team seem unmotivated it is usually problems with the management.

Well done NP.

A special mention has to go to the tosser Illingsworth and the Saints Trust who sat by and said nothing while Lowe killed the club with his final act of lunacy.

Fully deserve to go down, players are a disgrace they could at least put up a fight. ****ing tossers.

Your "shades of grey" argument is about as valid as the "Hitler did build some good cars.." point of view. Why don't you just admit you were wrong about Lowe? There is no fence to sit on anymore, he is a failure.

I expect they could.

What Ken is proposing is an excellent idea. I don't get why the club are not allowed to sell season tickets in case they go bust but they are allowed to receive donations. I think most fans would happily pay for their STs despite of the risk if it meant there was a chance of the club being around. I would happily stump up £500 for next years ticket despite the risk.

I think Crouch said just after it happened that he was unaware of the situation.

I expect everything depends on wether we stay up, go down or go down and get -10 next season. There's a big difference between buying a Championship club or a club that will spend at least 2 years in League 1.

I disagree, I think behavior is an important factor, agree it was the police's duty to deal with that though.

They were obviously surprised by the crush outside the ground, some rozzer thought he was being clever but screwed up big time. The police were completely at fault, but to say the actions of the fans didn't contribute is rubbish, to cause a crush like that outside the ground people need to be pushing.

Whilst the fault has to lie with the police the Liverpool fans should accept that their behavior outside the ground did contribute to the disaster. It's nothing against scousers, it could just as easily have been Saints fans but large amounts of drunk fans, mainly young men, do behave in a certain way. If they had just waited in an orderly manner outside the ground the gates wouldn't have been opened. I also think this "Justice for the 96" needs to be brought to a head, the copper ****ed up, changes have been made. Remember the dead, forget the blame, and move on.

It is amazing that the one person that has kept his job is the finance director. You would have thought he could have worked out the state of the finances when he added Ryan Smith to the payroll in January.

I'm pretty sure if a club ceases trading then their registration will be cancelled and they will be able to play for whoever they want.

But if we don't make the end of the season they wont be able to sell a single player.