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He’s a fucking intern, we’ve had interns before and you generally don’t give them anything important to do. We don’t know what their setup is, he might have been tasked with giving his take on how they will line up and thought fuck it, I will go and do my own research and look like a genius when I get it right.

I would image his job is not one where you just turn up at an office and clock in from 9-5.

No but it’s not impossible to imagine an intern, desperate to impress his boss, taking it upon himself to do something that stupid. Given how amateurish it looked that seems entirely plausible to me.

I doubt it was just him but to say it’s impossible is just bollocks. At a guess I would say others were probably involved but those at the top were not aware. When you look at the risk v reward it makes little sense to have some geeky twat just standing there openly filming when the repercussions are potentially so severe.

Not really, it’s entirely plausible. Without seeing the evidence we just don’t know.

I was in Club Wembley for the City game, was decent. Nice bars and food with a great view. The atmosphere is not as good though because you’re surrounded by neutrals. If you can’t get a ticket from Saints you can usually get Club Wembley on resale online somewhere but they will be expensive.

I think this might just be the thing that gives the EFL enough reason to not kick us out. Whatever they say, if the match doesn’t take place next Saturday at Wembley it would be a disaster for them and people are already buying tickets, booking hotels, travel etc. So they will want to punish us in a way that doesn’t create chaos. Because the guy was spotted and they knew they were being observed two days before the fixture, any advantage was surely negligible. Any set pieces or formations could have been changed so our advantage was purely 1. Maybe knowing if certain players were fit, and 2. Forcing them to make changes late on to anything they wanted to keep secret. Also the whole media storm surrounding it probably helped Middlesbrough, it created a more hostile atmosphere in the first leg and was probably a more negative distraction for our players. We need to be punished but the punishment needs to be proportionate, I think that’s why we will get a fine and points deduction.

Also they might think that giving us a significant points deduction will make next season a bit of a farce. We might as well spend nothing, take a humping every week and use the Prem money to smash the Championship the following season.

I would expect any points deduction to happen next season regardless of what league we are in. As I understand it, after the Leicester City episode both leagues have agreed to work closer together. It would still be at the discretion of the PL though.

The smoke probably being just made up shit posted online - there are so many agendas at play here. It could be the tip of a really dodgy iceberg, or it could have been one idiot employee doing it off his own back, we just don't know at this stage.

Are they ever really independent though? They are being paid to do it by the EFL so the Boro guy is effectively one of their bosses.

And again, in English?

Given what is at stake, I would imagine if the club wanted footage of the training session at that location they could easily pay an agency to do it, get decent footage and have zero chance of any comeback. My mate used to do private detective work and spent most of his time going round covertly filming people.

Surely that is way too amateurish to be part of a large scale operation sanctioned from the very top. Some geeky little twat just standing there, in plain sight, holding a fucking iPhone.

And the usual bunch of weirdos will be responding to him no doubt.

Labour will fuck it up, that’s guaranteed. First they picked the wrong Milliband brother, then they somehow ended up with Corbyn. The only reason Starmer looked half decent was because he followed those to shit shows, and he only got where he did by brown-nosing Corbyn. Burnham would probably do OK but they’ve already fucked up that option.

It was just a complete melee, if you analyse it in forensic detail there would be a whole bunch of fouls committed by both sides. What was committed against the keeper was no worse than what the Arsenal players were doing.

There were at least two Arsenal players committing fouls.

That’s just bollocks, that was a goal.

Except Leeds did exactly the same thing and just got fined 200k. 😂

Yeah, obviously. 😂

Complete shite, has this spygate stuff really effected the players?

As with most conspiracy theories there is probably a grain of truth in each of the points but none of them prove it was a false flag or that they knew it was going to happen. For Example there was reports that Egypt warned them that something big was being planned, but we don’t know how many warnings they receive daily that never amount to anything. They might have ignored it for a number of reasons. And the last point might be true but it’s just an example of propaganda which happens all the time in wars so is just meaningless.

What a load of bollocks. I don’t believe it was a false flag but the idea that someone who does has to be a racist is just nonsense. Some people just believe weird shit like that. Would the Israeli government allow it to happen for their own agenda? I doubt it, but it wouldn’t surprise me if agents working for them did.

He is a constant threat and wins us a lot of free-kicks, I don’t see that as a problem.