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Most do. I expect language and family connects are two reasons why some might feel safer here.

By that I meant NATO troops are not dying and NATO cities are not getting blown up, whilst Russia is losing tens of thousands of troops and having their military degraded.

Think at the moment NATO is in a much better position leaving it as it is with Ukraine fighting a proxy war, don't see what they would have to gain by deciding Ukraine up. AT the moment NATO can destroy the Russian military at will without any comeback. Plus I doubt the Ukrainians will like the idea of their country being divided up. That said I expect eventually there will be some sort of peace deal that involves Ukraine being part of NATO and conceding some territory to Russia, I just think the fighting will have to stop before Ukraine joins NATO.

This is just complete nonsense, if you want to be in the more vocal parts of the ground or shout at the away fans you just buy a ticket in those areas. That will be the same regardless of where the away fans are, moving them will make no difference whatsoever.

It’s good to have a standing area but I can’t see moving the away fans making any difference to the atmosphere, it’s the same fans just moved around. Those that want to shout at the away fans will just move to wherever they are, those that want to just sit in silence with their flask of coffee will move to the Northam

Is that where you learned how to sweep floors?

Better hope these strikes actually have an effect on their capability otherwise all we have done is increase support for the Houthis. I would have thought a better approach would be to stop Israel’s attacks/genocide in Gaza and scale down the conflict.

Surely the more important question has to be over the judicial system that saw so many people wrongly convicted? Computer systems will always have bugs, big companies will always try to cover stuff up to protect their brand. How come so many judges believed that a computer system was infallible over people with previous good character without knowledge of IT systems or evidence from independent expert witnesses? Prosecution: “The computer shows this person stole money”. Defence: “the computer system is fucked”. I get how this can happen a few times but 900 times with the same system, mental. Surely the judge on case number 899 might have thought something a bit fishy was going on?

This. It’s a disgrace the government haven’t sorted it out already.

Beginning to really like this Martin fella.

Money I guess.

Would be a great signing, can't see it happening though.

Definitely more Russia than UK/USA from what I can see.

The Wembley thing was just symbolic, the UK government has supported Israel's reaction through all of this. Israel had killed plenty of civilians and showed their intent way before the England game on the 13th, they are not doing anything seriously different now to what they were doing then.

Apart from the UK government and those calling for Wembley to be lit up in Israel's colours while they murder innocent civilians of course.

Of course they knew how Israel would respond, we all did. That doesn't mean it is a good idea to support/encourage it.

I think the naive ones are those who believed Israel was acting purely in self defence and trying to minimise civilian casualties. Still think it's a good idea to light Wembley up in Israel's colours?

It's clearly never just been an operation to just take out Hamas from day one, they are just handing out brutal collective punishment which fits with how they have acted in the past. I see Cameron is now calling for a ceasefire, does that mean he will be joining the next 'Hate March'?

But surely any right minded person would want Hamas fighters killed, not innocent relatives.

Yeah, more innocent people dead, that’s just what we need. Genius.

Sounds like a right laugh round your gaff.

I don't know if he's in favour of positive discrimination or not. He made the speech at an organisation that helps people from all sorts of backgrounds into a journalism career with bursaries - and that includes white people (who he apparently hates according to our resident simpletons).

Whatever you call it my point was that he made the comments because he is against discrimination not because he hates all white people.

From the show I listened to I got the impression he was fed up with being surrounded by Ruperts who got their opportunity by daddy funding their internship, or because they went to the right school or daddy knew someone on the board. Basically a lack of diversity in class and race. The bloke is a right soppy sod who constantly speaks out against all forms of discrimination, you need to be thick as shit to think he just hates all white people (see above).

He said pretty much those exact words on one of his radio 5 shows and discussed it with a guest. I remember thinking that you gammons wouldn’t like what he said about being surrounded by mainly white people. If you want to think he hates all white people fine, after listening to him I thought it was pretty obvious it is the system he hates though. You shouldn’t be such a snowflake.