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It would be a hell of gamble to assume Russia wouldn’t attack. Plus there will always be a risk of a mistake or trigger happy general sparking something. NATO just need to keep it as it is but step up the arms supply to Ukraine IMO.

I dunno, it would make WW3 a lot more likely. What happens when a Russian missile takes out a load of NATO troops?

Back onto the important issue again.

While they are inside. If they just go on to reoffend when they get out it may be more cost effective to focus on rehabilitation.

Unless ‘tough on crime’ means reducing crime, not just locking up as many people as possible.

That's bollocks, add their votes together and they would only have got 49.4% of the vote.

If Farage makes PR happen then it can only be a good thing. It's fantastic that the Tories are out but the vote share shows how fucked our electoral system is.

Interesting story

That’s just fucking tragic

Just looked like a bunch of excellent individuals not playing as a team. Will lose to the first good team we face, probably Switzerland.

Kane has done fuck all, Southgate need to grow a pair and make a change.

Still a massive difference to what a Trump did. Wanting a second referendum because you felt people were lied to is completely different to making up conspiracy theories about a vote being rigged.

Great news getting a reserve keeper signed for a couple of years. Look forward to the new no1 coming in now.

It is mind-boggling how it has come to this, a convicted criminal vs a senile old man for the leader of the free world. It would be funny if there wasn't so much depending on it re: the war vs Russia. Having a pal of Putin in the White House is not going to be great for the current situation. Surely Biden can pull out of health grounds, he is clearly not up to the job now, let alone in 4 years time. Just need someone to hide his meds for a day or two.

But those countries and similar are the NATO ‘expansion’ that old rubber face has been blaming the war on. If NATO didn’t let these countries join just because they were scared of Russia what sort of message do you think that would have sent to Putin?

Bellingham has been garbage the last two games, I would start with Palmer next game.

What are you scared of?

We all knew that at the time because the politicians and medical experts were telling us exactly that.

I knew two people who died from it you twat.

If Tories get wiped out I will find it hilarious but it won’t change my view on PR. I would prefer a Labour government to the Tories but I am not a huge fan of Labour or Starmer. That just shows how fucked the system is, I vote Lib Dem because where I live it’s a straight choice between them and the Tories. I want Starmer to be PM because it’s a choice between him and Sunak even though I don’t think he’s that good yet if my vote actually counted I would vote Green because I think the environment is the most important issue we face.

Don’t agree with that, I think if we had PR then people would vote differently and the parties would be different to how they are now. Corbyn would probably be leader of a momentum party and there would be another centre left Labour Party with someone actually electable in charge. I expect the Tories would be completely different as well with the headbangers on the right in a party with the reform loons and the rest in a sensible centre right party.

Can’t agree with that. The last election was a Tory landslide but still more people voted for left leaning parties than them. The whole system is outdated and is why we end up with having to choose between the likes of Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn for PM.

He is someone who is aiming to become leader of the opposition and then our next PM so any outrage is totally justified. Imagine the outrage if Corbyn had said the same. To put any blame on ‘the west’ is just nonsense, he talks about the EU/NATO ‘expanding’ as if it is some sort of colonial power invading countries and forcing them to join. These are free democratic countries choosing which trading block/political union they want to be part of or what is best for their defence.

English ref on VAR fucking up the Euros.

That’s a fucking insult to Saints, at least we can string a few passes together.