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Because what rainbow laces is promoting “everyone is welcome at football” is obviously a good message. Of course everyone has a right to stand up for what they believe in, that’s why it’s right that players can choose not to wear poppys or rainbows should they wish.

It expect it doesn’t matter if it’s on his kit or not, you can’t have religious or political messages on display. Im not a fan of religion at all, Islam can be particularly backward with its attitudes but so can Christianity.

I just think it’s a shame (as in unfortunate) that some religions are homophobic, no hypocrisy at all, just my opinion.

The massage was clear but so are the rules around writing statements on your kit. I expect the Man U players were just backing their teammate. As I said, it’s disappointing but it’s a free country. At least it’s highlighting the issues Islam has with homosexuality.

Re: Guehi, writing anything religious or political on your kit is against the rules - it’s as simple as that. It’s a shame Morsy refused to wear one but it’s a free country. Some religions are homophobic, some more than others. Muslim players are making a choice based on their religion, that’s different to writing something on their kit.

Guehi was warned for having a religious statement on display, the rules on that are pretty clear. The poppy example is entirely appropriate because, just like the rainbow laces its for a good cause yet nobody cries about the pressure put on players to conform with that even though not all players want to wear it.

Same principle though, both making a small gesture for a good cause by putting a symbol on a shirt, wether it's for promoting equality and diversity or remembering those killed at war makes little difference IMO.

Like those who choose not to wear a poppy?

True. It’s a suicidal style of play anyway but when you have your 4th choice keeper in it’s just lunacy.

Would have bit your hand off for 1-5 at half time, get in!

Apart from handing the opposition two goals on a plate Lumley has done OK.

What a fucking idiot.

Yet Ukraine is desperate to join NATO, and NATO is saying no, not anytime soon. Great carrot.

I disagree, I think promoting equality and diversity in football can only be a good thing, and wearing an armband for one game is a small, completely harmless gesture.

If that team tries to pat it about at the back like City it’s going to be embarrassing.

I don't think that's the case. IMO it's just a phase we're going through. Society is always progressing, there are people here now who were around when being gay was illegal, I remember homophobic attitudes being the norm when I was growing up. Once the culture of football catches up this sort of signalling thing will just die out.

Obviously. Sam Morsy chooses not to wear the armband but he its not down to his own individual choice.

Who's choice was it then if it wasn't his?

Has Sam Morsy been warned about his behaviour then?

True. Momentum/money - pretty much the same thing. Typical of our luck that we get an owner like Marcus and he dies.

No doubt he did a good job but it was a different situation, different owner. You would obviously have him over the current lot but getting from League One to the Prem was much more about Liebherr's cash than anything else. When they brought the club they said it was 'the bargain of the century' - they got a Prem set up on the cheap meaning he had a blank canvass and Liebherr's money to invest. Cortese got the big decisions right and it sounds like he may have been one of the reasons Marcus chose us so for that he should be commended. But he clearly was a bit of a twat which is why he's not overly popular.

Same as the poppy then.

They are all grown men, I’m sure they are not going to be crying over a bit of criticism. The Irish fella who refused to wear the poppy got more stick.

I don’t think anyone is being forced to wear them, Sam Morsy isn’t.

I don’t go on twitter but wasn’t Trump banned for spreading misinformation and inciting violence? It’s important to have free speech but there should always be limits. I’m sure there are plenty of other right wingers who have used the same social media platforms for years without getting banned.