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What a load of bollocks.

Difference is Martin was successful in his first season in charge so I get the impression they got carried away with the promotion and thought they had found the new Pep. SR have nailed themselves to his mast and probably know it’s a case of make this a success or they are screwed. The problem is there is no DOF, they were probably wanking over the possession stats when everyone who knows football could see that his style of play would be a struggle in the Prem. He deserved a shot at it but a competent DOF would have known the likely result of him not changing his style and had a few options lined up. Russ should have got the bullet at the first international break and the new man brought in the next day.

Depends what they win and at what cost. The below copied from Reddit: In the past 2-3 years they've caused Sweden and Finland to join NATO lost most of Armenia influence, Kazakhstan playing their own game and now unrest in Georgia about to lose Syria with Khmeimim airbase and Tartus naval base (established by Soviets in 1971, the only port other than Black Sea ones for Mediterranean operations including submarines) lost/used up most of their massive Soviet heavy weapons stocks lost most of weapons exports and influence that goes with that (India turning towards US/France/others), likely permanently lost half of their hydrocarbon exports (and mostly high margin ones, to Europe) and etc lost bug chunk of their foreign currency funds (some being given to Ukraine) and wasted a good bit of their gold and other reserves that they painstakingly built on oil/gas profits their oil/gas profits are likely never going to be as big as before, given the damage to the industry economy in general slowly going back to 90ies And of course, forever ruined relationship with their once-brothers in Ukraine (once fundamental part of Soviet Union, where a lot of the best Soviet tech was developed and manufactured), caused incredible suffering that will never be forgotten and likely permanently pushed Ukraine into western sphere of influence.

Looks like losing their bases and an ally in the Middle East could be another consequence of Putin’s war.

That’s the only reason I can think of for the delay, they are getting rid of the whole lot. Seems little point in just sacking the manager when those above him are clearly clueless.

They need to put him out if his misery.

I lost count of the amount of times we could have got it forward quick and caused them problems only for the player to turn around and pass backwards. Watching this lot play is so frustrating - you don’t score unless you take a few risks FFS.

True, but we all know how our system works. The majority vote blue or red like a bunch of zombies regardless of who’s on the poll card or how well they have done. Unless Starmer shits the bed Truss style it would probably end up with a Lib-Lab coalition at worst, with Reform just splitting the Tory vote. Reform need to merge with the Tories to stand any chance of power.

Totally agree. We are all perfectly entitled to have an opinion on religion though.

I'm not judging Morsy, just criticising religion. Do you not think there are elements of Islam and Christianity that are homophobic?

No, as usual you are wrong. I said Islam CAN be backward (like many religions). Morsy has not even explained his views so I can't possibly judge him. I just think it's a good cause, if he chose not to wear one because he didn't like the colour clash with his kit I would still think it is unfortunate that he chose to undermine a good cause.

I respect anyone's right not to wear a symbol, just like I respect that Irish fella's right not to wear the poppy - I don't have to agree with their views though.

I don't believe in hell, that's another invention from a fairytale written centuries ago. Recent research has found that one in four LGBTQ+ people do not feel welcome at live sports events - that's unfortunate.

I said can be, try reading. Christianity and other religions can be as well. It's inevitable as they are generally based on texts written centuries ago.

Can be backward, can be. People will always have opinions on other’s beliefs, that’s just life.

Because what rainbow laces is promoting “everyone is welcome at football” is obviously a good message. Of course everyone has a right to stand up for what they believe in, that’s why it’s right that players can choose not to wear poppys or rainbows should they wish.

It expect it doesn’t matter if it’s on his kit or not, you can’t have religious or political messages on display. Im not a fan of religion at all, Islam can be particularly backward with its attitudes but so can Christianity.

I just think it’s a shame (as in unfortunate) that some religions are homophobic, no hypocrisy at all, just my opinion.

The massage was clear but so are the rules around writing statements on your kit. I expect the Man U players were just backing their teammate. As I said, it’s disappointing but it’s a free country. At least it’s highlighting the issues Islam has with homosexuality.

Re: Guehi, writing anything religious or political on your kit is against the rules - it’s as simple as that. It’s a shame Morsy refused to wear one but it’s a free country. Some religions are homophobic, some more than others. Muslim players are making a choice based on their religion, that’s different to writing something on their kit.

Guehi was warned for having a religious statement on display, the rules on that are pretty clear. The poppy example is entirely appropriate because, just like the rainbow laces its for a good cause yet nobody cries about the pressure put on players to conform with that even though not all players want to wear it.

Same principle though, both making a small gesture for a good cause by putting a symbol on a shirt, wether it's for promoting equality and diversity or remembering those killed at war makes little difference IMO.

Like those who choose not to wear a poppy?

True. It’s a suicidal style of play anyway but when you have your 4th choice keeper in it’s just lunacy.

Would have bit your hand off for 1-5 at half time, get in!