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It’s most infectious when you have symptoms but it begins to peak the day before. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54648684 It behaves like a 'hit and run' killer The amount of virus in our body begins to peak the day before we begin to get sick. But it takes at least a week before Covid progresses to the point where people need hospital treatment. "This is a really brilliant evolutionary tactic - you don't go to bed, you go out and have a good time," says Prof Lehner. So the virus is like a dangerous driver fleeing the scene - the virus has moved on to the next victim long before we either recover or die. In stark terms, "the virus doesn't care" if you die, says Prof Lehner, "this is a hit and run virus". This is a massive contrast with the original Sars-coronavirus, back in 2002. It was most infectious days after people became ill, so they were easy to isolate.” I can see why you think Brexit is a good idea, you seem to have a problem understanding details and reality. You only understand concepts that can be drawn up in crayons and primary colours. Maybe you should come up with a catchy three word slogan to get the public to buy onto your brilliant Cruise Ship idea, SHIP COVID OUT?

No because with this disease you are highly infectious just before you get symptoms so with a decent track and trace system you can track people you have previously been in touch with. It’s not rocket science.

The whole idea is fucked. The whole reason this disease spreads so much is the fact that people without symptoms spread it and those that get symptoms spread it before they have symptoms. I expect the amount of people who have symptoms, then went to get tested and still carry on spreading it is tiny - making your bizarre ship idea pointless. If having a positive test means you get sent to a ship full of Covid ridden people for two weeks then no one would go to get tested, certainly not the type of people who would otherwise just carry on as normal if they had symptoms. Also, me and my other half have both worked from home throughout the pandemic, even when we had symptoms. Under your cunning plan we would have to stop working for two weeks, so on top of the cost of the ship and two weeks food and upkeep for our family there would also have to be some sort of compensation for two weeks lost earnings. If we just stayed at home and isolated there would be zero cost. Cracking idea.

Cruise ships So let me get this straight. I have just tested positive for Covid and instead of just staying in and watching Netflix for 2 weeks I get dragged from my house by the police or army and flown by helicopter to a cruise ship full of Covid positive prisoners moored off of the south coast somewhere? Who would you get to crew these ships?

It’s almost as if some bell-end has left it to the last minute meaning they have no option.

Plenty of people have been. There are obviously many downsides to lockdowns but there are few alternatives so there is no point moaning like a little bitch because your ale house is shut.

Measures in between is exactly what we have done and are doing now, even our first lockdown was not as severe as many countries. I can’t stand Bozo and his bunch of cronies but when it comes to lockdowns he has little choice. The idea that you can shield the vulnerable and just crack on as normal is just fantasy.

Allowing Covid to run riot would have a much worse impact on the NHS.

I disagree, the EU have made it clear they would welcome us back so there is no reason why they wouldn’t make concessions, especially if Brexit proves bad for both parties. It all depends how things pan out, if we thrive outside as Boris says then obviously going back in won’t happen.

The British public’s view on rejoining will obviously depend on how it turns out. If it’s a complete shit show people’s loyalties to Brexit won’t last long. Its obviously going to take a few years for the effects to become clear but I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up going back in eventually. The vast majority of people just want to be better off, they aren’t weirdo Brexit jihadis like you and the others on here.

Dos it make any difference were the person who died had an existing condition or not, there are millions in the high risk category and their deaths are just as tragic as those of healthy people.

We might have less money but we will have shit loads of fish. We’re playing a blinder.

Is that the same as the Trump blinder or better?

This. A bunch of old wankers have taken their chance to give two fingers to Germany and we are going to be left with the consequences.

No way will they let a few fish get in the way of a deal, this is good news. i expect the current shit-show in Dover has given the negotiations a bit of a nudge.

It’s just bonkers putting everyone in tier 4 the day AFTER everyone will be meeting up and infecting their families.

That’s where your argument doesn’t make sense. One minute you call it a protectionist cartel, next minute you expect us to be free from their regulations and be able to undercut them and keep free access to their market. You can’t have it both ways.

From you that’s a compliment. Cheers

Great to see Lewis win, obviously the best candidate in a pretty shit year. The British public obviously are not put off by the Marxist takeover he is so openly part of.

Shouldn’t we call this new variant the English Virus?

Decent performance, can’t really complain about the result. If Ings has stayed on we probably could have nicked a point.

I should have reported it but I was young, straight out of Uni in my first proper job so didn’t feel well placed to report my new boss to the old bill for saying something racist. Like you would have I’m not lecturing anyone, just trying to explain to a simpleton the reasons why people are not just being anti-racist but SHOWING they are ant-racist.

That’s the bit you just don’t get do you. Appearing to be anti racist is what it is all about, the more that people show that they are against racist behaviour the more people who behave that way know they are in the minority and their views are unacceptable. It’s not rocket science.

Of course it will, it’s not an either or thing though - let’s keep up with both.

For some it might, but you would like to think that for some supporters seeing their heros make the gesture week in week out might make them think that racist behaviour is for wankers. Even if it has a tiny effect there is no harm in it, unless you are one of these people terrified of a Marxist takeover.