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Except I never mentioned voting or political parties. 😂

All true though. Farage is the worst kind of racist because he’s not stupid and knows exactly what he’s doing. He stokes up division for his own political aims and that makes him more dangerous than the knuckle-dragging fuckwits who hang flags from lampposts.

If the opposition know you are watching them it defeats the point of spying, they would just make sure they didn’t practice any set pieces or formations they would use in the game. Or as Paul Scholes said, they would use it to their advantage and fake injuries and practice fake formations etc. The idea that we didn’t know the rules is obviously complete nonsense, but the fact that they were disguised doesn’t mean anything.

Not really, even if spying was not against the rules you wouldn’t want the opponent to know you were spying so wearing a disguise means nothing.

What punishment did Bielsa receive from the FA? Assuming the FA's rules were the same back then, if so he committed exactly the same offence and that would set a clear precedent.

I thought they just said there was no evidence to suggest it was at that stage, or words to that effect. That obviously changes when they find evidence to the contrary and then they call in the anti-terrorism lot. Seems like standard procedure to me.

The difference in the mentality of the players was obvious, take away that fear of failure and they look a different team. Plus a bit of pace upfront helps.

He’s got a point though, we always fuck it up. You go back to 1990 and Stuart Pearce wellying his penalty straight at the keeper, then there’s Beckham losing his shit and getting sent off, Rooney stamping on someone’s bollocks, there’s countless penalty fuck ups which is due to lack of technical ability/mindset. We have not even reached a World Cup final in my life-time and in our entire history won nothing without home advantage. Tuchel should take some blame for his subs but the England players just shat the bed and stopped playing as soon as they took the lead.

Agree with all this. Tuchel has to take his share of the blame but in my opinion the main reason we lost was because the players just bottled it.

I agree. A top side could have gone 5 at the back and still kept Messi quiet. The players went a goal up and just shat the bed.

We went too passive before he made the subs. I didn't agree with taking Gordon off for a defender, I would have stuck Saka on and tried to hit them on the break but fact is, a top side would have seen the game out.

I don't agree with his subs but a top team would have seen the game out.

Classic English response, blame the manager. If it's not the manager it's because the Premier League play too many games, or we are not teaching the kids right etc etc. There always has to be an excuse, it can't possibly be that we are just not good enough at football.

Depends what you rate as good.

Good teams don’t do that.

Just not as good as Argentina or the other top sides - Norway is the only decent side we have beat. Face it, the record doesn’t lie, England are just not a top footballing nation.

England are just not very good at football, whoever is manager is not going to change that.

Just showed lack of belief, a good side would have kept it the same and looked to nick a second.

Classic England, went one nil up then shit their pants.

It's all in your head. Everyone has their own set of morals and values and each individual obviously think theirs is right. Pigeonholing people into 'left' and 'right' is just bullshit nowadays anyway, you can be socially conservative but be economically liberal or vice-versa, everyone is different.

You just assume we consider themselves morally superior because you know deep down you're a cunt.

Hope I'm wrong but I've got a horrible feeling it's going to go to penalties which probably won't end well because Argentina have a keeper with regular length arms. Either that or we play well but get fucked by the ref.

Yep. I think we all know what his thread would have been like if the perpetrator had brown skin, been an immigrant or was a muslim.

Of course it's subjective, it all depends what triggers the lunatic.

I couldn't understand how anyone could do that sort of thing regardless of political views. But it's just a fact that extreme views can give rise to hate and with some nutters it ends up turning violent.