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Of course there is plenty that is worse now than 20 years ago, plenty that is better as well. What I am most proud of about the country (our values of compassion, tolerance, fairness, freedom and democracy) hasn’t really changed though.

I don’t necessarily disagree but you should still be proud of a county that takes care of the most vulnerable. There are plenty of places around the World that don’t, it’s pure luck that we were born in a place as great as the UK that does.

In my opinion our welfare state is something we should all be proud of, taking care of societies most vulnerable is something a good country does. It obviously has its faults but historically it is something the UK should be proud of.

He’s supposed to be a comedian?

What like?

Exactly. Using the word colonised and making up figures. It's a very thin veneer, almost the thin as some on here.

What is the point in persisting with this clown?

Archer is just fucking useless.

I disagree, surely when two players are fouling each other it can just be ignored. Refs do it all the time.

And mine. Being a friend with him wasn’t wasn’t considered such a big scandal at the time, the scandal is what has been revealed by the release of these files. Starmer has made a massive error of judgment, that’s obvious. What is not clear at the moment is how much he knew about what went on between them when he hired him.

It was common knowledge that he was friends with Epstein when he was hired as ambassador.

Well that obviously depends on the nature of the relationship and what Starmer knew. Clearing up existing business is obviously very different to joining Epstein in gang-bangs on his Island.

That remains to be seen, it depends what he knew when he appointed him. At the moment it just looks like piss poor judgement on the part of Starmer, it's not like he's been partying with the KGB on the eve of a NATO meeting.

Why would I be upset, I've never voted Labour in my life. You're the one wetting your pants over this.

I agree, I think most people do. Hypo just needs to wet his pants about something.