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It doesn’t matter if they are right or left wing, the potential for trouble and possible loss of life with this migrant thing is obvious - that’s why the police need to stamp down hard.

Being an organised group, wearing balaclavas and being led by a criminal doesn’t help. I think the old bill have got it spot on, they need to make an example. There is potential for real trouble with the migrant issue, you can’t have local inbreds taking the law into their own hands.

Based purely on the potential threat, just like the Just Stop Oil protesters.

Yet the Just Stop Oil protesters received record sentences for non violent protest.

The police will be acting on what they see as the bigger threat, I expect the far right is potentially a problem they think could get worse. I’m glad they are making an example of the cunts, hopefully more long sentences will follow for anyone else involved.

I don’t believe the need for a deterrent is remotely similar. I expect the police see a bunch of organised, balaclava wearing thugs with a leader who is a convicted criminal as a potentially much bigger threat than some people protesting about a murder.

No I’m saying that sometime strong sentences are imposed as a deterrent, the guy who got banged up for nicking a doughnut during the 2011 riots wouldn’t have got the same sentence had he just stolen a doughnut on a normal day. Same crime, different situations.

I don’t think they are the same at all. People protesting about a racist murder by the police is very different to an organised group, wearing balaclavas trying to get at immigrants or block a road.

The difference in my opinion, in all the cases, is the need for a deterrent, it’s nothing to do with politics. That’s why some on the far left, like the Just Stop Oil were handed severe sentences just like some in the far right. There was a risk of the Just Stop Oil protests getting out of control just like there is a risk of the boat slashers/protesters causing dangerous situations. The 2011 riots also had to be stamped down on which is why people got banged up for minor crimes then.

And what about the really tough sentences handed out for the 2012 riots?

How does the very tough sentences handed out to the Just Stop Oil protesters square with your two-tier theory?

Back during the 2012 riots someone got put inside for stealing a doughnut - it’s not suddenly changed. The small boats are an obvious problem but you can’t have people going out trying to sink boats or people will die - they need to nip it in the bud. Carry on being angry though, it’s funny.

Just laughing at you getting so angry. Sometimes they hand out tough sentences as a deterrent, that’s just the way it is. Nothing two tier about it. I think there should be tougher sentences for peados but I’m not laughing at that, just at you.

“unlimited sums of money” 😂

Or maybe an exceptionally harsh sentence would be appropriate to set an example and deter more twats from trying to do the same?