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I think Selles likes Theo because he isn't nasty to him and says yes a lot. Also, doesn't see through his sham, emperor's new clothes, 'manager' credentials. What a farce. If we were really serious we should begin the rebuild for next season now, starting with a manager who doesn't just let the players fluff about in their comfort zone. No wonder they all wanted him in. They could just plan their holidays and next clubs in peace. Hate the lot of them. Complete mercenaries. At least if they played the Perraud types we'd get some effort

Leeds would smash us

I'm still fuming about this. Even from when the players emerged onto the pitch, the body language was inexcusably relaxed. What on earth does Selles say to them? Then there was that infuriating thing where Bednarek and I think Bella K stand either side of the 'goalkeeper' and he pops it out to them slowly, they look up, and proceed to go walking pace along and back. You need to set the tone at the beginning of matches, and the mismatch of this as a tactic to our league position and generally the need to fire up the crowd should really result in the immediate sacking of Selles, who more and more looks to be the epicentre of our negative tactics, that came to the fore more in Ralph's latter years. Then, when you add JWP's listless captaincy and lack of bite, as well as his lack of leadership qualities, fear of even shooting now, and the body language of someone already relishing meeting up with his fwend Forster at Spurs, you have the recipe for disaster. Walcott runs around like a Dad at his son's sports day, and that 'shot' was just atrocious. Barely league one standard. Lavia, I thought, was superb. And he seems to care. Shame we don't stand a chance of seeing him next year. Sulemana kept falling over. But at least he ran at players occasionally. When Stu came on I forgot we had him in the squad. Che obviously sulking somewhere, the bad egg. Aribo was better than I thought he'd be, but hasn't the pace for the Premier League. KWP was alright, but still seems to be doing all he can to fight off the 'coaching you into shitness' that Saints have on the training ground, clearly. Alcaraz was okay. Overall though, it felt like the death of a club, with 30 thousand disinterested people watching on. No guts, no fight, no talent, and we are in for a big shock when we struggle to stay in the Championship next year, not least with big clubs coming down too. I was going to come to as many games as I can in the run-in, but after spending upwards of 200 quid to bring my kids to watch this utter shit I'm not going again until we have a bunch of players who actually care. Watched my son's team on Sunday, and it was a breath of fresh air seeing pace, intensity, determination, and fight rewarded with a 3-0 win. If Saints had an ounce of that instead of the deep fissure of discontent and ineptitude running through the club like letters through a stick of rock, then we might stand a chance of turning around this awful oil tanker of shit. Maybe back inside a decade? Not sure.

Sellés: “We will try to keep that winning mentality – I know we are not getting a lot, especially in the last games, but we are going to try to go for every game, try to win every game and try to compete at our very best.” #saintsfc what the fuck is this prick on about? Just piss off out of our club you deluded, overcomplicating, blind sham

2-0 down: JWP on his own at the centre circle, head down, hands on hips. What a fucking shit captain. No wonder none of the others can give a toss. Fuck them all

I’m at the game and can’t believe the lack of intensity, desire and skill. Absolutely shit all over the pitch. It is utterly abysmal and I detest every one of our team. Except Lavia. Epitomised as ever by JWP’s directionless chicken shit lack of bravery. The palace fans are singing ‘you’re fucking shit’ and I have to agree. We are dismal beyond belief and all our players are just jogging around. Bednarek should be shot. And our manager simply cannot be anywhere near this club next season. That tedious slow play out from the back. Palace are not even trying and still winning. And they look very weak. The sad death of a club.

Is 'holding' Man City for 44 minutes where we are now? Whoopy doo. Jeez, the lack of ambition on this forum almost matches the shoulder-shrugging slip into the Championship and below. Ooh, new stadiums to visit. Fuck sake

" I was very happy with how we played in this 0-3 defeat. We controlled the game. And I have a marvellous roll-neck. And the players like me. So nah nah na nah naah.' (bangs on about how great we are and how he doesn't look at the table, or how shit Elynoussi is, of how other teams actually attack and at least try to score goals rather than 'sit tight' and just hope it goes in off someone's arse and we hold on for dear life. Just like wot Ralph taught him.)

Lack of skill I can excuse. Lack of effort and intensity I can't. If we don't do the latter on Saturday I might have to give up on this bunch until they can show they actually give a shit. Starting with the captain showing an example, and not just tippy tapping it back and sideways. Agree with earlier poster; Djenepo might not be perfect, but at least he still wants to give it a go. Guess we might see for 10 minutes when he replaces the greatest player that ever lived, Elyanuseless

Selles will say he was really happy with the first 60 minutes. Not so much the last 30 when we conceded 3. Fed up with this shit. Make the season end, let JWP and all the other tossers bog off to their new clubs (they have already winked at), get a no-nonsense manager in and change the culture of the entire club from top to bottom, so we don't miraculously somehow turn decent talent into utter dross. Not much to ask.

I think Leicester's choice isn't as stupid as some might think as that managerial team - Smith, Shakespeare, Terry - looks capable enough to get them back up if they get relegated. Can't say the same for Selles.

JWP seems to hate playing it forward these days. What a waste of a free kick. Why is he so bloody chicken? Adores his own pass completion stats. No threat whatsoever. like the look of this line up though, although Walcott up front is still a big embarrassing.

Seriously, what the fuck was that? Appalling touch. Professional footballer.

Elyanoussi playing. Thank god for that. Rewarded for his string of excellent performances. jesus wept

We faffed around, turned back when in promising positions (looking at you here KWP), or just did meaningless tippy tap in the mould of our incredibly uninspirational captain, who epitomises our almost complete lack of fight, with one eye on his move to Man U or whoever. Sick of the lot of them.

Newcastle showing how bad West Ham are. Inexcusable how little we tried to beat them, with fault starting at Selles’ batshit selection. Again.

Personally think we'll beat Palace and Bournemouth and end up bottom on 29 points. The most dismal season of all, with a club run by morons and a team consisting of shit mercenaries

Silver linings

Spurs you fucking chokers. Tbf Everton deserved that. Intensity, aggression, heart, and fire. All with superb noisy support. Basically the opposite of us.

We need to persuade Potter to pick us in the Championship as the team to rebuild from the bottom up. He's taking a break and apparently won't take the Leicester job just yet. Let him bring Bruno and whoever. Kick Selles out as he's blind to appropriate team selections. Sell JWP (if he hasn't been already), KWP (ditto), Lavia (because we cannot possibly keep him) and hopefully pay someone to take Ely and Che. Pump all that into experienced pros with metal but no little skill. Allow Potter free rein. Do a Brighton, again. Only way out in my view. Otherwise witness the slide.

What a dismal, chicken shit, lily-livered performance from a bunch of mercenaries who care only about avoiding injury and their next contract. Lavia and perhaps Perraud aside, they were united in a lack of gumption, ability, desire, guts, determination and application. Hey, KWP, so you're gutted, yes? How about actually going forward with pace and desire? JWP, nice tippy tappies. Well done. Good luck at Spurs with your best fwend, or Newcastle, or wherever. Stu - used to love your drive and ability, but where's it gone? What the fuck was that loopy cross? Mara - how about you at least run around a bit? Walcott, face it, mate, it's over. You looked like a Dad who'd won a competition to play with the stars. I could go on. But added to that we have a manager who is seen by some as the new messiah as he wears a black rollneck but selects such negative, defensive dross when we have a must win. Ely? What does he have on you? Why not pick the pace we have and use it, rather than this tedious 'keep it tight and see where we are' tactic which is so clearly a Ralph legacy. Yet to see that you have anything like what it takes to be a decent manager. Should have listened to some of us and got Dyche in (who will beat Spurs tonight) I'm so angry about yesterday, and so many other abject, no-guts performances from this bunch of unlikeable cretins. If we need a reset, it's to go and get experienced bruisers to get us out of the Championship, or we are in danger of facing another desperate struggle to stay up again next year. PS anyone want my Palace tickets? (joking)

Zero pace in this side. Or actual realization of the plight we’re in, seemingly. Such a painful watch - slow and plodding, just so pleased with tippy tap. Ralph legacy.

Can anyone explain how Elyanoussi keeps getting picked? Does Selles like shit footballers?

It’s all over guys

Spurs being shit and us having a lot of luck