saint michael

Let’s face it it’s the palace game that was the disaster. A win last week and a point today would have been great. This team can’t string two good things together and hasn’t been able to for ages. there have been so many chances to turnaround this shit season and none of them have been taken

The board has invested in young players to develop them and sell them on for higher price. I think we may well be stuck with the majority of these next year. This will be in the anticipation that they improve and saints come back to PL. with this in mind they may well also invest in Selles continuing. I think the question will be which of the senior players will want to stay and which the board will hang onto. There are bound to be a few that go, but some of the current fringe players will likely become the core of the team next year. I think it’s going to be another high risk approach to next season. I sure the board believe that this team will perform well at the lower level. 😬

Nothing at all surprising today. Shit in all departments. Still passing sideways and backwards as if time is of no importance. Holding the ball too long waiting to be approached. Too many touches controlling and deciding what to do with it. they truly are a shit team and we will get the normal Selles shyte on how we had a lot of possession etc. silence from the board so clearly happy clappy shyte from the, future looks rosy…I wonder how long it will take us to recover from this season / seasons

This has been coming for years. Shit keepers shit defence, shit attack. Tippy tappy sideways football where success is ball retention and possession. Ward prowse only quality and hope of scoring. Picking people like Ely every game. Players wanting to feel loved by the manager. Picking Jones don’t even start me in that. A board that is a complete shit show. etc etc etc changing any one of these things will not make the difference. Rotten to the core. Big change needed

Selles talking about on pitch relationships…. He means passing to a teammate

We are the experiment that has gone horribly wrong…… Frankersons Monster

I’ve got this horrible feeling it will be Scott Parker with his woolly jumper

This weakness all goes back to our defensive tactics and quality at the back. How many times to we see our defenders having to dive in because of weak defence positioning. It always looks like a last ditch throwing themselves at it. This is then compounded by not having the skill at this level. Keeper is 3 years off being a prem keeper if he develops well. Bednarek proven not to have the quality. Salisu not been coached raw and has brain farts Lyanco chicken with his head cut off. Put that lot together and you really have a clusterfuck. Not surprising we need to score 2+ goals every time

I think you may be underestimating their ego and arrogance. I think we see more people in power using the ethos that bullshit baffles brains. Whatever the question, say what you want to say, and say it like it’s a fact. Don’t worry that others may say the opposite. I don’t believe they really care what the fans believe. This is a PR stunt. Ticking a box. When they decide they’ve had enough of Jones they will make the decision…clearly not there yet. somebody mentioned that they have been a fan for 10s of years, me too and I’ve never felt more distant from our club. Don’t feel like saints anymore other than name. Rich mans plaything

If you listen to the recent broadcast to Adam Blackmore it will be restating the same points. Jones not a popular choice but was the manager of the year in 6th biggest league in the world. Will take time to stamp his style on team. Good young side will develop blah blah blah

The purpose of this forum is for them to put their political views forward to justify their past action and what their strategy is and why they will continue to do what they are doing. It’s not to answer the fans questions. All answers will have their spin. If you take a look at prime ministers questions, its their version of this.

I think I now understand the problem 1. we have a keeper that can’t make saves 2. we have a defence that can’t defend 3 we have a midfield that can’t pass 4 we have an attack that can’t score. 5 we have a manager that can’t manage 6 we have coaching staff that can’t coach.

There seems to be a sympathy for Ralph now that he didn’t get the experienced striker in. Didn’t he say at the forum that he didn’t rate experience and it was more about attitude and application? I don’t think we are going to shell out now for experience. More likely to be someone along the lines of Bree that Jones knows and buys into or another in the more expensive version of Mara who will be a long shot of being any better than we have. I think it feels so late again that whoever it might be will be underwhelming and almost certainly not the answer to the problem we have.

Even if things were going brilliantly before he came in he would be the wrong appointment. Long ball football doesn’t work in this league and 3 at the back hasn’t worked at home either. So his fundamental beliefs and style is just wrong. You then add on that he feels unable to influence how we defend and outcomes we have a complete cluster fuck on our hands. Owners will suffer if relegated. So very high risk strategy to just stand by and watch this car crash happening. Stupidity or arrogance or both

I think some leaders are good in turnaround like when he came in after Hughes and some are good taking it on to transform a club. I think he did good job rallying and getting people together at start but it is way beyond his capability and has been for a very long time. concern now is the combination of the amount of change needed and the young players ability to deliver it. Just feels too little to late to me. Whoever comes in has an almighty challenge. Think we should not be surprised how difficult they will find it…. Whoever it is

Good piece Turkish and understand what you say. Just not sure what our patience is in service of. Isn’t the business model the same and only luck in purchases going to make it different. I wonder what their true ambition is.

It’s really sad because it feels it’s gone on longer than it should. You just feel like we have lost our identity as a club. Team needing to gel, team performances so poor and looking lost, rumours of player and manager fallouts, club making poor decisions on how they deal with issues in stadium whether right or wrong, paying below living wage etc etc the list goes on. Something drastic needs to happen to start a new positive direction and era.. it’s not going to be easy and without further fallout but goodness we need to start the new journey now

Agreed but he’s suffering from a stiff neck watching the ball be walloped over his head by keeper. The number of times he came short today only to see this happen. Think you are right though trying to fill gap left by Romeu

Last season I kept thinking he can’t survive another loss and he did. I thought they would pull the trigger at the end of the season. They didn’t. They have now bought a lot of young players in who clearly are going to take time to find their feet. I thought interestingly a comment made by Semmens aboutRalph was that Ralph didn’t rate experience, and that talent beats experience [paraphrasing). now this could be him saying that the players brought in are Ralph’s choice. Young with raw talent that needs developing. if they believe this Ralph stays in the belief he will ride the storm and the team will start performing. My biggest concern is that I have seen no evidence that Ralph knows how to develop and organise a defence. He believes defence is solved by formation not experience one thing is certain to stop this misfiring machine he needs consistency of structure, approach and team to embed a team. I’ve never seen great team building where there is little consistency in the people in the team, and too much change not being managed well.

I got the impression he is doing what he believes in, high press, working with people he believes in. Came across strongly that it’s about being in this league then doing best possible from there… so seems clear on the “what”. I didn’t walk away with any more confidence in the “how”. He was as clearly shocked by the poor run as we are but also not able to influence a change in that run..interesting that he mentioned Broja and younger ones looking around after having a few good games and mentioned their values. All in all my view hasn’t dramatically changed that he seems like a nice bloke doing what he believes to be the best…I’m just not sure I believe he is the right man to make a sustainable change to make this group good enough and organised enough to cope with prem league.

New striker Probably announced tomorrow before fans forum to stop any awkward questions. 12 year old world class striker on 8 year contract going to be worth fortune when we sell him in 6 years time.

Until the owners and Board think the premier position is in jeopardy he stays. If they were not going to back him they would have got rid in summer. Don’t forget success for them is survival so they will be delighted by what he has done so far. Whether we play well or not on top of this is a bonus. I think they will give him a lot longer than any of us believe at this time. They are not going to tell us they are happy with form or it will affect supporter behaviour, support / income. I think we are in for a rough ride to come yet. I only hope we can keep these youngsters heads up.

Any Striker we sign is going to need to be amazing to compensate for this defence and organisation . Sorting out structure, tactics, a defence along with goals essential. Another couple of big losses and the youngsters are going to struggle. I cant see how a good striker is going to score more than we let in. i cant see us letting in less than 2 a game

There was a lot more honesty that they were shit days… the overdrive today of spin where everything is going in the right direction when the football is complete shit. We’ve also got fans believing it…. Are you one of those?

I don’t feel angry I feel sad. First game in 67. I feel I have lost my club. Ralph is a real Charlatan. All bullshit now with prem and Ralph who is fi ing clueless. I would seriously be in any league with a set up that I can connect to than this shit