mikec

Am I right in thinking they are allowed to re-take it if the ball never actually crossed the touchline? In this case I'm pretty sure it did (although I was sat in the opposite corner so can't be 100%)

Did we not play Cardiff (or Swansea or Wrexham) before that?

I think it was Davies that scored in the 1-0 folowing the 6-3. Beattie did get the goal in another 1-0 win over Man Utd but that was much later at St Mary's (last minute winner).

But even if there had been no chance of them being relegated, the penalty would still have applied last year. It only gets carried over if the team finishes in the relegation zone without the penalty (eg Saints last year).

According to liveonsat.com, the game is being shown on a Polish and Romanian channel called SportKlub so I suppose there may be some streams available.

Great article! Can't argue with a top 4 of Davies, Paine, Davies, Le Tissier and Channon, although personally I would still have put Le Tiss at number 1 (and I am in my 50s). The McMenemy era rightly dominates the upper part of the list. Not sure that I would rate Steve Williams as high as 5th though - he had some great days but could also be a bit inconsistent. Armstrong at 9 is possibly a bit generous - higher than Case and Keegan at 13. I think Sydenham and Chivers deserve to be a bit higher than 22/23. Thanks for the link.

My first ever game as a 7 year old was a reserves match at the Dell vs West Ham in 1967 which we lost 2-1. Thanks to "In That Number" I found out that Norman Dean was the scorer of the Saints goal. It must have been towards the end of his career as he seems to have spent most of the season in the reserves, but as the scorer of my first ever Saints goal he's a legend for me as well!

I think the point is you need to look at how many points the team in 6th would need to get so that they would STILL be 6th. If the team in 7th got 70 points and the team in 6th got 75 points, then you could say that 71 points would have been sufficent for the 6th place team to get a play-off spot. The fact that they actually got more than that is irrelevant. It comes down to whether you are looking at it by inserting Saints into an already completed league table of 24 teams (your approach), or whether you consider it as a league that already includes Saints as a potential 6th place finisher (NickG's approach). Not sure if this makes any sense but I know what I mean

You won't be able to pick up the Freesat channels in Austria without installing a MASSIVE dish. The beam is tightly focussed on the UK. People in France, Belguim, Holland can pick it up but the signal drops off very quickly as you get further afield. The subscription Sky channels may be a bit easier to get (if you can get a Sky receiver and card) as they are mainly broadcast on a wider beam (but still on the Astra 1 cluster.)

I've got the LP as well. The commentator was Peter Jones I think. The summarizer who says something like "wouldn't one of these teams like to break the deadlock now" just before the goal was scored was Duncan McKenzie.

Matt Le Tissier (for the Benali testimonial game)

I know this is completely off-topic for the forum but may I say how refreshing it is to read an intelligent, well-reasoned and tolerant discussion on this issue from both sides. When religion is discussed on most internet forums it usually degenerates pretty quickly to insults and closed minds - come to think of it, a bit like some of the footy-related discussions on here

I remember him scoring on his debut at the Dell, about a minute after coming on as a sub.

With 6 promotion/play-off places up for grabs and 4 relegation spots, it's quite likely that we'll have at least an outside chance of one or the other (or both!) until perhaps the final 3-4 games. I would settle for that upper middle finish though.

Agreed. I remember going to an all non-league 1st round tie between Windsor&Eton and Farnborough a few years ago. The fog began to close in a half-time and 10 minutes into the second half you could barely see 20 yards in front in you and the ref had to abandon the game. On the positive side, I did win 3rd prize in the raffle - a box of choccies if I remember rightly. I think an away draw against a non-league side could be a great occasion.

Just so you know - I'm booing when Torquay take theirs.

Not as pointless as continuing to read threads that you're not interested in.

Take him! An adult/child ticket pair in the Chapel end (Family Center) is great value this season and there will be other kids his age there. Be prepared for the fact that he might get bored after 15 minutes so you might want to bring along a book or DS or whatever to keep him occupied while you watch the game. Alternatively he may be hooked and become a fan for life. (Are you happy to inflict that on him? ) The only downside then is that you will be nagged to take him every week.

That's the problem. You only have to look at the discussions on here to know that if you take 20000 fans you'll get something like 20000 different opinions (or even more sometimes ) I don't see how any one person or group could be said to be representative of the fanbase unless he/she has to keep saying "On the one hand, some people think X but on the other, some believe Y..." and so on. I have no problem with the media talking to groups like SISA as long as it's clear in reports that it is just one person's or group's view.

ditto

I thinks it's more of a 'wouldnt it be nice if we won but dont get your hopes up' game.

You mean there are people who would rush off to watch a meaningless England friendly rather than having their nerves torn to shreds watching Saints try to hold on to a 1-0 lead?

If I understood it right, I think the timing was down to Barclays rather than Lowe.

BBC will be showing 10 live games during the season starting with WBA v Newcastle on the opening day. They are only showing Championship matches though :-(

It would be more interesting than rugby, that's for sure.