Fitzhugh Fella

Perhaps a poll Would you be happy to see Pompey go out of business YES or NO? Should be a fairly entertaining debate. And then perhaps the Pompey forum could do similar. I would lay a fiver that a higher % of Blue fans would vote "yes" than red.

I agree but Henderson experimenting now will have little relevance until the new manager is in place. Tactically we are in limbo.

Agree but I read somewhere Wotte was talking to a player he wanted to sign and I guess AO thought it unfair to prolong the pretence. I hope Henderson is concentrating on fitness because he can't really do a lot more.

According to "5 Live" tonight the deal is far from near finalisation because although DD is complete there is still a wide chasm on agreement on the price and, even if it is agreed, finance has not yet been arranged. Reading between the lines they were saying it looks dodgy. Storrie lies like a cheap watch and Sky buy the deceit. (They bought the Pinnacle story, remember, hook line and sinker). I remain confident in my source (despite aintforever's doubts) and I would still put a large sum on the fact this "Jacko in a dish dash" cannot and does not want to deliver. He is an attention seeker.

LC paid the £500,000+. He then became part of Pinnacle. Pinnacle weren't what they then claimed.

Science fiction versus factual history!

My Dad has being saying we are cursed since 1949 when we failed to go up despite being umpteen points clear at Easter. Nothing now will ever change his mind. Even when we went about 6 years without missing a penalty he was always grumbling that "we always miss pens"!

We're not though - we are "owned" by one of the richest men in Europe. There is a difference.

According to Fry in Saturday's Echo (very interesting Q and A) SFC was, 2 weeks ago, a whisker from liquidation. Had that happened - and Fry was resigned to it happening - then I doubt this thread would ever have been started. We came very very close to the brink and I am afraid there is one man far more responsible than anyone else for that scary scenario. I think Lowe always thought he was doing what was right, in his eyes, for the club but he was massively flawed and wrong in his vision. He's gone, we survived by the skin of our teeth (no thanks to Pinnacle and other tyre kicking idiots) and we are now in the hands of Andy Oldknow believe it or not. I await developments with interest. The appointment of our new manager will be the biggest decision in years - lets hope he get's it right.

I would rather have Lowe back as manager and I am being serious. Andy I know you read this site - please NO.

1000% agree

I can tell you they first contacted Mark Fry on 29th April and they pulled out on June 30th, 10 whole days after exclusivity had lapsed. Therefore they were "around" for more than 2 months.

Indeed McG would have gone whatever I suspect but not Drew. Whether or not you like him is irrelevant really - he went to pay the staff and adminstrators and had Pinnacle not delayed the Swiss taking over by 6 weeks then that would not have been neccessary. If Surman turns into a world super star (unlikely I know) we will all be hacked off he was forced to leave because a couple of North London property developers fancied making a few bob. Sorry haven't a link, Alpine but I quoted some relevant excerpts in my first post on page 1.

Don't think LC is too happy either and I think Drew Surman would have been quite happy to still be a Saint next season. Don't get me wrong I am delighted to have my club owned by what appears to be an absolute godsend and one who is exceedingly wealthy and doesn't smuggle guns but I still think initial aspects of the attempted Pinnacle purchase were not handled well. Tbh I am surprised that the carpet at SMS has any room for any more dirt. When Wilde came I was one of the first lemmings over the cliff celebrating the demise of Lowe. 2nd time around I prefer to spare a second looking over my shoulder.

Alpine I suggest you do read the interview before making your mind up and also can I say if Pinnacle had not been given undeserved exclusivity then Surman and McGoldrick might still be wearing the red and white of Saints tomorrow at Dean Court. That very fact alone means it is far from history.

I certainly agree Fry has some questions he needs answering. In last night's Echo Cortese said even as Pinnacle was given exclusivity " I told him (Liebherr) there was a bit of evidence that the group might not be in a position to complete and we became convinced it was the case......." He also says later in the article "we felt a bit misled" . These are points Fry should clear up - in those 4 weeks while we waited for Pinnacle to sign off the deal Begbies pocketed nearly a quarter of a million.

But it is not our money that is wasted don't forget.

tried to ring you Stan but you obviously had your head in a pint of Ringwood.

Very good although I bet not many spot the pun. Eddy Grant and all that.

In the charts 40 years ago this week - Edwin Hawkins singers - remember that summer well - Viva Bobby Stokes and all that!

Good idea Andy - but I won't be writing it - far too emotionally involved. D

No sorry, but my source has his finger, if not on the pulse, very near it and I trust him implicitly.

Agree - he has potential and could go all the way but...................

Although not Saints related I thought, today of all days, this news (which has just come to me from an excellent well-placed source in P*mpey) deserves a position on the main forum. I am told news of the collapse will officially emerge in the next few days. This is not a wind-up. I don't usually "do" gloating but with the mod's permission can I indulge myself just a little? Perhaps today (July 8th) should now be made a public holiday in Hants.

I had my share of "run-ins" with Andy Oldknow over the time he was here and I know the staff weren't keen but I think a lot of the problems originated with Jim Hone. I have to say he was very accommodating with the Ron Davies appeal and did I think he had a passion about the club - we certainly had a few late night discussions! Plus if he was instrumental in bringing in our Swiss saviour then perhaps we owe him big time!