Fitzhugh Fella

Sums my thoughts up perfectly

I would not write him off at all, but nevertheless I raised my eyebrows when NA actively criticised him by mentioning his poor crossing after the Blackpool game and then not using him as a sub v the Skates. Unfortunately he stepped into Chamberlain's boots and that is no easy task. Suggest the jury remains out a tad longer or at least to the season's end - he certainly has more to his game than Forte.

Good point

Sorry Minty he was dire - and I am normally a fan

Who was your dad?

Thats your trouble Trousers you are too sensible which considering the rag you read is quite something.

The most one-sided 0-0 draw I ever witnessed

CB Fry only played a handful of games for us - and David Webb was with usa season and a half

How could I forget Bert - here is is updated profile DAINTY Herbert Charles 1904-05 b. Geddington 6 Feb 1879 5’8” 12st 0lbs d. Kettering 10 Sep 1957 Career: Geddington 1895/Kettering T 1896/Leicester Fosse Aug 1899/ New Brighton Tower Aug 1900/Leicester Fosse Aug 1901/Northampton T May 1902/Notts C May 1903/SOUTHAMPTON May 1904/Dundee May 1905/ Bradford PA May 1911/Ayr Utd Oct 1913,player-mgr May 1914/Dundee Hibernian player-mgr Apr 1915, chairman 1922/ coached in Canada/ Guayquil (Ecuador) coach Apr 1925/Geddington Vics trainer 1926/ Kettering T mgr-trainer 1931/Ipswich T trainer 1932 Debut: v Portsmouth (h) 1 Sep 1904 WL Last: v Queens Park Rangers (h) 29 Apr 1905 SL By the time Herbert Dainty joined Saints in May 1904 he had already played for five professional teams and his transient lifestyle did not terminate with his move to Southampton. A worthy successor to both Chadwick and Bowman, the club’s previous centre backs, Bert was coolness personified and was at his best during desperate pressure around the goal area. He was also the mainspring when it came to feeding the ball to his forwards. His announcement to leave the club at the end of the season was met with outcry throughout the town; despite this though he left for Scotland and, breaking with his self- imposed tradition of an annual move, remained at Tayside for six years. He was briefly back in England in 1911 with Bradford before completing his playing career again in Scotland. After the war he became chairman of Dundee Hibernian but soon after expanded his footballing travels abroad, briefly in Canada and then to Ecuador where football was in its infancy. Returning home to his native Northamptonshire in 1926 he coached several local clubs before helping Ipswich Town achieve League status. In later years he became an insurance agent. Comp Apps Goals SL 31 1 WL 11 3 FAC 3 0 Other 1 0 Total 46 4

Golac great player but sometimes went missing in away fixtures according to the manager who signed him.

These sort of lists are always so subjective as no one is now around to "push" the pre-war era or even the Edwardian days. So let's kick off with George Carter, Arthur Chadwick, Sam Meston, Harry Wood, George Clawley, George Molyneux, Albert Brown, Fred Harrison, Frank Jefferis, Bert Lee, Bill Rawlings, Art Dominy, Bert Shelley, Tommy Allen, Bert Hough, John Bradford, Arthur Holt, George Harkus, Mike Keeping, Tom Parker, Fred Titmuss, Johnny Arnold, Bill Luckett and Ted Drake.

You surely have got to be joking - he is elegant I grant you and makes himself "look" good but for all the posturing he contributes nothing. An imposter

Not looking for a fight or anything but I simply cannot believe you thought MS was class. I watched the game live and I have watched the whole 90mins on tv since I came home and Schneiderlin was utterly crap. His only asset is he is good at making himself look good, if you know what I mean.

I agree. Schneiderlin is very good at giving the impression he is good. Most of his passes are sideways, he is elegant without achieving anything and yet there are still some who rate him. I would put him firmly in the Oakley class - looks good but does not actually DO a lot.

Hmmm the last few posts are giving me "food for thought"

GOOD POINT - let's see it happen in January

As ever Chapel End Charlie talks sense. Pre ML's buyout the finances of the club were of vast importance to all fans because after all it was all our finance. It was important to know what was being spent and where. Obviously now that is not our business as we are privately owned, but I can't help wondering - sorry old habits die hard. I smile when people still accuse me of being anti-Saints - if anything this post was anti-Echo but unfortunately on here to "question" is seen by many to "criticise". The only time I have ever been "political" re Saints was under the later reign of Rupert Lowe who I felt had lost the plot soon after appointing Wigley as our permanent manager. Things quickly turned nasty. In hindsight perhaps i was too harsh on Lowe, as his heart was in the right place although often his mouth wasn't. As for the Liebherr family, well I wish they were a little more open as to their ambition and desires - there remains an undercurrant of speculation that they wish to sell and that NC himself might want to buy but it is - speculation. Things are going well, much better than I expected, but now expectations have risen too, which in itself could be a problem. Have we over achieved so far this season? maybe, but the table doesn't lie. I would however feel more confident if i knew that we were going to make a serious charge at the Premiership (and why not after a fabulous start) and to do that we DO need to strenthen significantly in January. Another reason why I started this thread. These are just my thoughts which I express on a forum in the hope I can "learn" from the ensuing debate from my fellow fans.

£7m? - I make it £3m -£4m. Fox 1.5, Jos 1.2 and De Ridder £1m?

Bang on cue - I was waiting and he couldn't resist.

Good point

So says Adam Leitch in tonight's Echo. He was referring to the fact that Saints do not have "a direct replacement for Lambert". Something that has bothered a few of us on here. He goes on to say within the same article "you have to accept that without a massive pot of cash, WHICH SAINTS DON'T HAVE, you aren't going to get a like-for-like in terms of quality for your star turn". Well over the last 12 months - even without taking into account the wealth of the owner(s) of the club - we are , thanks mainly to the income from the Chamberlain transfer, a good 8 to 9 million in the black. So why does Adam insinuate there is not decent money available. Sloppy Echo reporting/accounting or does he know something, we don't. No agenda before the accusations start........ just genuinely intrigued why the local sports' reporter thinks we can't - or won't -afford a decent back up for Rickee.

These are the sort of posts I listen to

As Beatle Saint said we took a punt and we lost. It really is sod's law Lambert got injured the week after the window shut and in that same week Maynard and Sharp (two rumoured targets) stuck the knife in. There is a long way to go and there is time to remedy matters but if NA has erred so far it was not getting in say a young 19 or 20 year old Reserve Premiership nos 9 (a bit like Beattie when we originally signed him). With the Chamberlain money presumably at his disposal he "stuck" when perhaps he should have "twisted".

Mark Fry hardly covered himself in glory as administrator for Saints. He very nearly ensured we lost the Liebherr offer by clinging onto the pantomine that was Pinnacle.

And Seaborne I wonder?