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Depends on the liquidity of the market? I can’t imagine they are taking much on these - so a few quid from mug punters probably does cause a price shift. Also not sure the extent to which bookies ‘take a position’ to any substantial liability anymore (based on ITK money or not) they just go a tick or 2 shorter than Betfair etc

Jozwiak signed permanently for Derby 2 weeks ago and played 90 mins today in their 4-0 trouncing by Blackburn. He definitely would not have been the answer.

I would think not getting Mckennie would make Reed more likely to stay?

I think that’s quite harsh on Adam Leitch to be fair - his coverage was excellent - particularly during the lower league days when access to stats etc was much harder than today

How do you figure we’d be ahead? we have spent £23m on KWP / Salisu - recouped around £15-19 for Pierre the figure mooted for Reed is around £8m - but it’s £20m ish for Mckennie. we aren’t getting £15m for Hoedt, Lemina or Carillo

He’s a football journalist. Giving his opinion on things relating to football is kind of what he gets paid to do?

Except they have already turned down a bid of €30m euros for him from Lille. That’s about £27-28m. So same agent aside, £15m prob doesn’t get it done. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lille-make-record-offer-for-patson-daka-salzburg-quot-not-our-plan-to-sell-him-quot-/view/news/366101

I would say we have zero chance of getting him For anything less than £35 - £40m? (Given that clubs always whack on more when it’s a prem club buying) Which we clearly aren’t spending. He is on the radar of much bigger clubs than us across Europe. May as well link us with someone like Jovic. Not happening

£110k pw. He’s been very poor this season. No thanks.

Sims isn’t good enough IMO. He had a good game against Wolves last season - then kind of threw his chance away. When offered on loan - couldn’t even get champo clubs interested and had to go to USA. Let him go and play somewhere and build a career for himself. if Boufal goes, then I guess we just replace with Tella. However if the rumours of Ollie Watkins having an £18m non-promo release clause are true (and assuming Brentford bottle the play-offs) I would like us to try and scrape that together. We can loan out Obafemi to make room. Watkins can play through the middle or wide.

Ings has had the season of his life and has 21 goals. Tammy Abraham has been up front for chelsea and has 15 goals. We aren’t getting a 15 goal striker - they would cost about £50m. unless you take a risk on a player - like Ings or Che and it works out. If you are asking the club to take a gamble on a £20m player who turns out to be a £50m player, then I think we’d all love that - but that’s obviously quite hard to do?

It’s an interesting question. Oxlade-Chamberlain was £35m with a year left on a lower value tv deal. But he’s English so higher value. I’d rather keep him than get £15m I think. Largely just to stop Ajax screwing us again

The point is that would not be our preference. We are offering him the third option, as we are choosing to not be tough with him to force him to move. How we arrived at this point with him is a separate issue. We would have preferred to sell, but if we are getting a decent loan fee and a good percentage of his wages paid, the chance for him to do well in Scotland next season, might create some competition for him next summer. otherwise a sale now might see us take only a very small fee, possibly not much bigger than the loan fee, and take a big hit in the accounts on amortisation.

Bentley started the season well, but has dropped off as season went on. Was very poor and culpable for several goals in their recent loss at Blackburn. Would be no from me

It’s a bit of a weird argument to make that we can sign a better player than Bednarek for around £12m, because Bednarek himself cost £12m? i think Bednarek was actually around £5m, but we had to endure him taking a good amount of time to adjust to the premier league, which doesn’t help us next season. its not that easy to just find ‘good young talent around Europe’. Every other club in the premier league wants to do the same, as do clubs in other major European leagues. We had an advantage, but other clubs in the premier league seem to have caught up.

Echoing others, but you are dreaming if you think Winks is a realistic signing. He’s in contention to start for England, he won’t be joining a side in the bottom half of the table whose aspirations for next season are initially to stay up. I expect Spurs would value winks at £40m+ if other clubs came calling

Because not only do we have to pay off his contract in full, we also would take the hit on the entirety of his remaining book value as amortisation. From an accounting perspective we haven’t yet ‘paid’ the £20m it cost to sign him, we pay that off bit by bit every year by writing his value down incrementally to zero at the of his contract. End his contract early, it costs you his full book value and whatever agreement you come to with the player for wages

We were solid under WGS, season we finished 8th

Whilst not necessarily agreeing with this approach, what changed is 9 more premier league points, which makes relegation significantly less likely (but not guaranteed). Fundamentally, the clubÂ’s wage bill is too high. It will have a ratio of wages to turnover it is happy with. When we were doing well [Europe etc] are turnover increased due to more games and more games on tv etc. So we upped our spend. Unfortunately, we didnÂ’t maintain that level of performance, so our income dropped. This leave us with a higher than we are happy with, wages to turnover ratio. Like or not, Hoedt, Forster, Lemina, Elyounoussi, Carillo represent a lot of money in both wages and amortisation (and I suspect we are clawing back at best, a very small proportion of the above expenditure through loan fees and wage contributions for these Players). Until these players are gone from the club - we are unable to buy a lot. Gao ainÂ’t putting money in. People can moan, say we need new owners etc. It doesnÂ’t change anything. This is where we are until the [very expensive] deadwood can be shifted. This summer is vital

Or maybe spurs wouldn’t agree to an option? Or maybe the only option they would agree to was £30m and saints rejected that? Or maybe in return for agreeing to an option, Spurs wanted a much higher loan fee which saints did not feel was value? We don’t know either way and I think it’s disingenuous to claim the reason there is no option in the KWP loan is definitively because we don’t rate him highly enough?

When they came up, Fulham wanted Targett and when they couldn’t get him, they settled for Bryan. If we sell Targett and poss Bertrand (in the summer) and end up with Bryan as first choice, that’s look like poor planning. He was very well respected when at Bristol City, but was pretty rubbish in his only premier league season and is part of a shaky Fulham defence in the Champo

On the assumption that the fee Leeds are paying us doesn’t include the same etc

He’s well connected on the Leeds side, but I doubt the validity of this. Would we sell him at a loss against the manager’s wishes? If we sell, I would imagine it’s obligation for the full £15m we paid at least (less loan fee potentially)

It’s not written anywhere that it needs to be? If you really want to see it live, attend? You can even ask questions that way!

To all our fans who criticise us for selling our best players. Bournemouth have kept Ake / Wilson / Fraser and spent on the likes of Lerma, Solanke. How’s that working out for them?