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Also worth saying that the players loving the manager is not a benefit in its own right. They all loved Steve Wigley. The England team loved Steve McClaren.

Lord knows why anyone uses official club sanctioned interviews as evidence that the players all love the manager. I've yet to see any interview like that with any player at any club in the world say anything different. What do you think Tyler Dibling is going to say?

I read something which says that the problem is the leaking and information from ministers has dried up, so all the lobby journalists have got an arse on about it because no one is feeding them info any more. Hence Beth Rigby who previously I thought was pretty good is being a complete twat re Taylor Swift. Who from what I have seem had blue light support in Cardiff and Edinburgh anyway. As do football teams and visiting ambassadors etc etc etc all the time.

Honestly I would be amazed. He turned down Ajax not long ago.

20 odd and 30 odd games in some cases. How generous of you. Russell Martin's track record is dribbling Swansea into 15th and 10th before achieving promotion with us primarily because he had significantly better players than all the other teams, ie the reverse but really the same reason you're letting him off in this league. I'm struggling to see anything to suggest that he is so much better as a manager than Cameron Archer is as an attacker.

Blimey, I was looking to get tix for that. If i cant even get a Wolves ticket basically my Plus membership is worthless. Except maybe if we get to an FA Cup semi or LC final.

"Football club at foot of Premier League changes manager" doesn't "hold up in real life"? I think it has happened before once or twice. All I am saying at the point of ten-games-to-go is we have a chance then to decide then what we might need for our Championship season then. I'd rather we got there having tried something rather than let this guy doom us before Christmas. It's great you are happy trashing all the players but maybe, just maybe, Russell Martin is a bit sh*t as well?

You seem to be obsessed with the 19 game thing when really that is just a humorous reference to the various scenarios that can play out. One of the scenarios I outline involve us staying up with the new guy but you can only equate new manager with failure. Hey let's stick with the guy on one entire point.

If Russell Martin can bin off most of the team that got us promoted are we not allowed to hold him to the same standards. His first seven games we've got one point scored fuck all and not really deserved any more. But yeah let's just give him the season because any replacement will be worse. Sure.

You seem to be labouring under the assumption that Russell Martin was appointed on August 1st. We've seen a whole season of him so we know his shortcomings - last season he lost all four matches against our fellow promoted teams, for example. Time for bye bye. I think we should welcome our new manager and get behind him. After all remember how Alex Ferguson started and he proved everyone wrong. The new guy deserves our backing from the start because we all want to stay up. COYS

I mean you can push for your "each manager gets eight games" strategy but I'm worried that youngsters like Tyler won't know their A from their E. So....Manager 2 gets up until December and if he ain't no good then BAM - GOODBYE and new man in for the Christmas fixtures. Then he would make it to maybe the FA Cup fourth round in Feb before the potential chop. I'm not super sure, i think its insane but if you believe in it, I'll back you.

New man gets game 9 to game 27. At that point.... If he's broadly in the right direction he stays to take us into the Championship season On the back of a narrow relegation. Or he performs a miracle and we stay up (we're not staying up). Or If he's terrible then bin off and either caretaker or move in on a decent Championship manager (come on down, the inevitably available Steve Cooper). Prep begins for the Championship.

8 points in his first 8 Saints PL games which we already know Martin won't be matching.

Duckhunter now reposting the "Stats For Lefties" twitter feed. Jesus wept.

The original post I replied to was someone saying "Hughes was better". Not "should take over tomorrow", none of it. Nice try sweetheart x x x You can sneer away at Hughes post Saints career but let's remember the guy you are swooning over has won, let's count them, fucking zero Premier League games. Zero. 60 plus goals conceded in every season he's managed. Let's see how glittering Russell Martin's career turns out after we give him the elbow. 4 different clubs in the top ten of the Prem, or pissing around mid table Championship? Off you go, Russ.

I'm not suggesting recruiting Mark Hughes you fucking clown.

Mark Hughes finished in top ten Premier League spots with four different Premier League clubs. Anyone thinking Russell Martin is better than that is a fucking idiot.

I've seen them out and about with their belt buckles on show and everything.

Football Insider is just guesswork clickbait.

I think we just need to wait for the dynamic pricing to kick in

As long as he's not our manager, I really like him. Would love to see him take Charlton up.

Exactly - the opportunity is that a different manager and a different approach could get more out of this squad.

You’re, like, the most insightful person this forum has ever known. Everyone knows our squad is not full Premier League standard.

I dont get the "unlucky" not to get anything from Newcastle. Weren't we lucky to play them for half a match with 10 men? We got a huge lucky break and still got nothing.

I have no doubt the club are absolutely determined to piss these easier games away with Martin in charge rather than make a change before.