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Possibly, but once up, a side like WBA has a little more choice and fiancial power (not a huge amount as we found out) than they do now.

Who? WBA's most expensive singing last summer was aboitu £3m. Go through the Championship signings last summer and there is no money at all being spent. Burnley, Norwich, Leeds and Luton made one siging each that was close to £10m. If Leicester went down would they sign him? Ipswich, possibly?

Will another championship side be able afford him in the summer? If WBA went up (or any of the other promoted sides), would they spend £15m on him know how he has fared previously at PL level?

It's a strange situation - loaning out a guy that only seems to score goals in the division you will be next season. Quite simply, he has not performed since Juric got here, so it's hardly surprising that Juric has dropped him. Having gone with Onuachu (or no striker), Armstrong's opportunties in the second half of the season were going to be limited. Him being overlooked is hardly going to foster a great relationship, so the idea that allowing him out on loan is going to `piss AA off' seems a mute point. Next season, if Juric is still here, AA is still going to be behind Onuachu, so him not wanting to come back also seems mute. if on the other hand Juric departs, the new manager can welcome him back into the fold, should he want him.

On first glance Standard Leige feels like very left field, but then I read that Fergal Harkin was previously player loan manager at Man City and now Director of Football at Leige. I guess that shows just how much personal relationships come into affect with a lot of football transfers. Interesting that the Standard Leige goalkeeping coach was done for match fixing when a player at Bari in 2009.

Maybe we don't want him back next season too, but him departing depends on there being a buyer.

What happened with Charlie Taylor? Did he ever decide against a move to Hull or Watford?

if he isn't going to get a game here, someone else paying his wages is no bad thing, right?

first team squad has 31 players still (not including Edozie, Edwards, Charles and BBD). Larios and Stewart both injured, so no way we could offload them, but nine senior players don't even make the squad every week. If Baz goes out on loan, that will be 8 twiddling their thumbs, but a shame we could not shift ABK and perhaps Taylor, Fraser...

The money we save will come in handy when we want to loan a guy to get us over the hump next season.

Ah. Bummer. He was playing every week too.

I assuem he's also going to get a loan elswhere, unless Juric is concerned that 10 CBs isnt enough.

Fair point. All I could jhtin of was one from a lesser league (so the champoionship isnt a major step down) that wants to get paid a lot more than he is now? BBD signed for Sheff United last year. Weren't they nailed on for relegation? Not sure he was scoring any goals for Villareal at that point though.

He's been playing regularly for Yoevil. Has he been recalled because Lumley or McCarthy are injured or is a loan to a side in a higher league going to happen?

I see that Chelsea have recalled David Fofana from Goztepe. They will be looking for a striker. Not sure Archer or AA would fancy that move. I think Onuachu turned that idea down too in the summer.

on the bright side, we now have more than 10 cbs on the books, so if required, we could now field a 1-10-0-0 formation.

THB, Bednarek, Stephens, Wood, Edwards, ABK, Bree, Santa and now Sylla...oh and I forgot, Taylor and Aribo if needs must! Bets of luck to the lad. Its a very tough position to play in the modern game. I hope we have got ourselves a gem.

I guess you need to consider what the purpose of the loan is. The Grobaek loan seems to be a trial for next season. Les' loan is different because it was last summer and the aim was to stay up.

Personally, haven't see enough to forge an opinion. In the end you have to trust the manager to make the right decision. Juric isn't going to allow a guy to leave that he thinks is special, but just needs a little more time. Ultimately he might be wrong, but he won't make a decision like that lightly. Sometimes you have to let a player go. He might make it in the end, but the timing may not be quite right. We mighy have to wait another three years before he is good enough. We could offer him £50k a week for five years to keep him here and see if it pans out, but isn't making that kid of invstment that just a big a gamble as selling him?

I'm with you. You have to absolutely amazing with the ball and/or an athlete, but I disagree a little on the player evaluations and think all three would be just as effective. Morgan was incredibly quick across the ground, snuffing out breaks from even the quickest opponents with ease. He was very strong too, although perhaps both assets increased over the years rather than him havong them in that first season back? Fonte was a pretty strong fella. Not quick though. I agree there. Cork had an incredible engine and covered every blade of grass. He was stronger and more dynamic than Downes I'd say. Your point still stands though. You simply have to be special to stamp your authority at the top level. Armstrong is (supposedly) quick, so you would think he would be dagerous, but he just doesn't seem to believe in himself, and without that confidence you are done for. Downes seemed to be quicker and fitter than everyone else he was up against last season. That's not the case this, so he isnt dominating. Insteda of seeing him regain possession, we are just seeing him lose it.

Any chance we can buy Gabriel Sara from Galatasary? Fat chance.

Really dissapointing. We would not miss him or AA if they went out on loan today. Next season is a different matter though. Acquiring one of the best midfielders in the championship in the summer won't be easy - and that's exactly what we will need to do if we want to get promoted.

Has he done anything in games? Has he looked better than Edozie?

I agree, he deserved a seciond go...and I for one thought he might go well this time around. The outcome is sad for him, sad for us. He's been given a fair go this time. I recall there were some suggestions on here that he mcould have been given a little more rope last time around. having been dropped, and assuming Juric is going to be here, there is absolutely no guarentee he will get games next season. Who is to say that Onuachu or a new striker won't be picked ahead of him. There's a lot of unknowns...

He has 18 months left. The argument might be that he could be loaned out for the remainer of this season (his wages would be paid by the loaning club) and then in the summer (having seen how he has done out on loan), and with a year left, we could decide if we want him for the Championship season ahead. If not, we sell him in the summer. If we decided to keep him, it would be to play him. If he was then playing every week, I'd imagine he might sign a new contract. That is a risk of course. My guess is the manager just doesn't think he is good enough at this point in his carrer and unlikely to be a starter next season either. He's not had long to come to that decision. But he will watch him at training every day and if he just doesn't beat his man or do things to impress in training, the conclusion is going to be that he isn't up to the necessary standard. There has to be some trust in the manager's eye...assuming he is going to be here next seaosn too.