Fabrice29

Please set up a rival youtube channel to the coaches voice with this sort of content. I'd genuinely watch it.

Sad to see Brighton resort to boring possession football today. Hope that's not what Martin will bring to us.

Interesting about Maresca. Think that's further proof that Wilcox is heavily involved with this decision and should relax a few of the "SR chose it so it must be awful" narratives. Of course it's foolish to think SR and Wilcox aren't aligned but clear desire to be better in possession is a fundamental driver for this managerial choice.

Just a few of the examples. Little reasonable debate to be had here and this doesn’t include the NUMEROUS posts that just say ‘possession in our own half with no purpose zzzz’ which as I’ve stated is just fundamentally incorrect. There is some rationale debate on here but a lot of it is underpinned by this belief that his Swansea team doesn’t attack 😂

Don’t try mate. I showed them the stats on this earlier and people just ignore it and shout ‘zzzzz, won’t get out our own half, something wrong if you’re scoring a goal after 56 passes’

For a forum that is so desperate to be annoyed this place continues to amaze how spectacularly wrong it can still be. There’s legit concerns to be had by the defensive record of this guys teams yet all the standard dinosaurs on this forum are frothing at the mouth because he might coach us to put a few passes together.

Just love the idea that the fourth highest scorers in the league had no purpose, were boring and disappointed the fans and was turgid and rarely got out their own half.

And here is the crux of the summer really. Whatever manager we have it’s going to come down to recruiting a good squad. I personally am chuffed we’ve got a manager who will make us more pleasing on the eye at the very least but we’ll have to give him the players to succeed.

Yep but you don’t just copy and paste his results at Swansea to us if we get him as manager. You hope that he brings the good stuff and in a different environment he has the solutions to smooth out the bad stuff right? That’s the whole point of appointing a manager. We want you to bring certain qualities and hopefully it improves what we have here already. That’s the risk with any manager. Fundamentally our players haven’t been good enough this season and we’ll need squad building whoever is manager so that the player quality is improved. Any manager is at the hands of the quality of his squad and it’s something that all 3 managers we’ve had this season can point to as an excuse. However having a manager who has clearly shown he can improve something we’re really not good at right now, seems like a positive. Hopefully he can help us and we can help him by giving him a good squad.

Point I’m making is we don’t do possession very well and a move to being better at it seems sensible.

I didn’t forget to mention that, I didn’t feel it was relevant to the point the guy made about possession. You’re right though, there’s clear question marks about Swansea too, but if people are going to be angry about the appointment at least make it about the goals conceded rather than ‘pointless possession’ 😂

6th lowest possession stats in the league but somehow people still chat this shite. We’re absolutely clueless in possession and that includes keeping it. Appointing a manager who seems to be able to coach it and has demonstrated his ability to transfer it into the 4th highest scorers in the league seems like a move in the right direction and certainly not the same shite we’ve watched all season.

That article is a year old fwiw. This season they're statistically not too different from Burnley. Possession is basically the same (ever so slightly less) and shots per game is also ever so slightly less. They scored 20 goals less than Burnley, suggesting that if you give this guy better quality in the final third than he currently has it might yield similar results to Burnley. Therein lies the problem of course, whether we've got/will have the attack to deliver but the fundamentals of Martins Swansea are not dissimilar to a team that swept away the Championship this year.

This is the complete opposite to what we’ve been doing for quite a few years now. Ralph was a heavily out of possession based manager. The playbook is based around that fundamentally and the in possession stuff comes after. Jones was lambasted for long ball football. Selles has gone back to Ralph’s ways. We’ve looked cluessess in possession since the whole ‘Vestegaard diagonal to KWP or give it to Ings’ season. Having a manager who wants to focus on possession and goals scored is exactly what this squad needs. Carrick, Martin, Mowbray, whoever it maybe needs to be steadfast in creating attractive football and coaching our players to be better at it.

Doubt Adams will play bearing in mind his fitness issues. No point risking that now. Based on Brighton playing high up I suspect Alacarez and Sulemana as a front two will be back in an attempt to break quickly when we get it.

It’s funny how Gibsons reputation has always remained positive. They’ve gone from a European final to being unable to get out of the Championship which is quite the drop and one that if SR oversaw for example would not result in them being used as a good owner example.

Well I think it was stated in a recent athletic article that he intends to bring a heavy possession based philosophy. Which is massively needed by the way because it’s something we’ve neglected for a while now. But also his body of work suggests this too. His teams at City played this way and he was promoted from within a few times which suggests his views aligned with City as a whole and they trusted him to implement that. I’d be surprised if he comes here and tells us his technically good teams he helped develop at City were all against his views. Pretty sure there is a podcast or two about with him on too which might be worth a listen.

This will be a Wilcox lead candidate I’m sure. Possession heavy and similar principles to everything we know about Wilcox. Suspect we’ll get our answer to who is leading this appointment based on Carrick v Martin if Pilchards is correct that Carrick is Rasmus’s number 1 choice.

Yes. It's perfectly normal for someone to jack in a ridiculously good contract whilst he's injured for a temporary managers job at a club he's booed at everytime he comes back that would highly likely end in relegation.

You mean contracted to Brighton Lallana?

Well it was just a hunch and it was based on a very similar conversation that you seem to have had with him as well (although mine was a very drunken one to be fair). But if he's been offering his services for a while but being rejected, then I think when we were most desperate the club might have been tempted. He's around the club a lot for charity and ex players stuff, he's got coaching experience, he's popular and relationship with the odd player too. I'm not sure who else it could have been. Ex popular player with coaching experience (presumably)...? Anyway it doesn't matter, I suspect the Arsenal result changed everything

1) Not just lazy but nowhere near physical enough. Jones mentioned this a lot when he was here. Watching Luton last night it was obvious that given the time he had, he'd recruited lots of pace, strength and height. All areas we lack. 2) Think this might have been Beattie. As for what happened...from memory your post was just before the point we got at Arsenal...I suspect that didn't help 3) I'd be very surprised if, having appointed Wilcox, if Ankerson and Wilcox's ideas don't align. So I have no issue with both being involved. That's just a healthy working relationship.

Carrick would be a cracking appointment and should rightly be number 1 target. Delivers for the people who want a ‘name’. Has experience of delivering relevant success in the league and also has an unknown ceiling. Probably also brings an out of contract top scorer with him too. Don’t think it’s any coincidence that the two managers on the shortlist revealed seasons are over. Other two potentially have games to come. Carrick and Cooper I would suggest.

This is what tempts me about this guy or someone like this guy. St Marys has become such a dull place to be as a Saints fan, all I want next season is the knowledge that the team I support has worked all week on implementing attacking play and therefore will potentially bring entertaining football. We've been so under coached attacking wise for years now, our best attacking play comes from our off the ball work and winning the ball high up the pitch, that's all we have. Just give me a manager who wants to work on us in possession. Results will come if they're good but lets make the home games fun to go to again please.

Ah someone got it. My memory of reports out at the time he left was that there were quite a few dissatisfied with him and his coaching as well as fights at the training ground. I could be wrong because I didn’t take a complete interest in it and I also deleted it because I couldn’t be bothered to talk more about a manager whose record speaks for itself