Fabrice29

I think it's 6 games into a whole new way of playing. The first 3 of those games went well. Norwich also had a really good atmosphere about it despite it being full of errors and goals conceded like last night but the difference was the goals we scored. The last two games have obviously gone terribly but the atmosphere has changed far too dramatically for such a small sample size. I don't think there's much difference between Norwich and Leicester other than Adams and Armstrong once again returned to being unable to finish. I think fans shouldn't be so outcome based and should realise that we need some patience and maybe some encouragement during bad moments, rather than getting on the players back immediately, especially young ones. Like i've said, it's a connection thing and the fans have been really really quick to throw the good will from the first few games into the air but I think it's uncalled for.

We were in the top six until the end of the game last night fwiw.

No, but last night we conceded after twenty seconds and most of the crowd was quiet and part of it was obsessed at Vardy daring to celebrate. There's no encouragement, no idea of getting behind them, it's just an inevitability about it. Which would be fine but then it's quickly followed up with anger when Bazunu dares to pass to a defender the next time he gets it. I don't think the players are help themselves obviously, and I have serious issues with certain ones, but I also don't think the fans are particularly helpful either. Even if you cba to encourage, I feel the desperation to be angry at a short pass is genuinely creating a harmful atmosphere.

It's not his team though is it, really? Like you say, he's had 6 games. That's not a barometer for anyone, despite what this fan base seems to think and has given other managers. He's had 2 weeks since the end of a very active transfer window and one of those most of them were away on international duty.

You know Brentford set up corners exactly the same way as we did yesterday don't you? Or they certainly used to, and it worked, and they were praised for it and they had an environment where they were encouraged to do it by both manager and fans who trusted each other. I think that specific example is a sample of a wider issue we have.

I think fans are some of the problem yes. You say compliant but all I see and hear during games is restfulness. Which is some what understandable considering I've spent years spending money on season tickets and barely seen us win but here we have a manager and an idea that is completely different to what we experienced before and is already producing more entertaining football and it's only been 6 games but the fan base loses it's shit when the keeper (who might be the best passer of the ball in the defence) dares to either pass to his centre back or waits a couple of seconds before picking out a long ball. It's bizarre, there's no patience, there's no thought that maybe we need to encourage them to be better at it rather than mocking them for doing it. No wonder players look tepid in their play at times, they've got a manager all week encouraging them to play a certain way but once they do it and it doesn't quite click straight away they've got 20k plus people screaming at them. There's no connection and there hasn't been since Ralph, I think that's a fan base not really knowing what it wants or letting a new manager take them to a place they don't feel comfortable in.

I think fans are massively out of touch with what the team is trying to do and incredibly quick to throw managers and their ideas under the bus without really trying to go with them. I don't think this manager, team and ideas deserve the panicky unrest that happens both during and between games when things aren't going well. Fans don't really know what they want, other than results and aren't prepared to show the patience to maybe get there. I also really cannot fathom why we as a fan base idolise players who consistently under perform but that's not just a fan thing, the manager seems to be picking the specific players I'm on about too (although he's new and will hopefully learn soon).

Manager under pressure really early again is it? How many more managers will it take for us to look at something else as the issue out of interest? FWIW, I don't think there is much of an issue and a complete change in way of playing will always have teething problems but all those that seem to think this guy is the issue, as was Selles and as was Jones, how many more managers will it take for you to look elsewhere?

And yet, every time you tell someone that you don't believe it's anything other than a placebo and you only did it for everyone else's benefit people actively make their excuses and move away don't they?

Where does watching the video of the planes hitting them and then them being reduced to rubble stand on the list of "research" out of interest?

Nobody feels safer because you're vaccinated. Ironically, everyone you tell that feels a little less comfortable in your company.

Don't need another experiment but lets get another manager in. Perfectly normal post.

I thought he was decent yesterday. Played his role well, pressed well, linked up with KWP well. Nobody had more succesful tackles on the pitch yesterday than him which I thought was interesting.

I remember when you kept bringing up your own opinions when you thought he was staying.

You’re all getting upset over Che Adams. And not just the Che Adams that underwhelmed for us but the Che Adams who doesn’t want to be here. Just think about that for a moment and snap yourself out of it.

Yep. They’ve dragged us down to a level where people think they are key. Genius.

First game he played I think he played well. It was under Jones and at home. Can’t remember the opponent though. I gave him a buffer of one.

I will never not find it baffling that quite a lot of people actually believe this guy is unsellable and key to our season. 3 good games?

This is also the most difficult role when up against deep and compact defences. Think September could be a good month for him based on more open games.

Love the imagination on those signings.

And yet somehow, CB’s aside, our squad is stronger than it was. Mainly because it’s been been coached properly.

‘Everybody knows it’s bid day yes!? Is Outlook definitely working? Send another test email just to be sure. We all know our roles when it comes in right? We practised this. Did we definitely turn off read receipts? Test that again too’

Why are you not okay with Drameh having a bad game but on another thread you're trying to convince people Che Adams is worth keeping?

"Braced for a bid" btw...what even is that kind of reporting? Weren't Aberdeen also braced for a bid a few days ago? We're in peoples heads without doing anything. The thirst for links is so desperate that it leads to this kind of reporting. Being seen to be active in the market is a victory in itself. Such weird times.

I'm not sure. They signed Kabore quite early on from City. Wonder if Drameh wanted to give it a crack at Leeds before making a decision and Luton wanted an early signing so decided not to wait.