Fabrice29

Considering he’s of a similar physical make up to Adam Armstrong, last year’s Championship top scorer, who every time he plays in the PL looks absolutely dwarfed and out of his depth, can you think of a reason why an 18 year old might not have the physical game for the PL just yet and that a league cup game against Cardiff probably isn’t proof to the contrary? I’m intrigued to know if there’s any other 18 year olds like like SAA getting regular game time in the league?

Fearful not critical. Clever clogs.

Because media duties and talk sport interviews are two different things clever clogs. Stick to reactions fella.

How about Meghoma and SAA were/are 17 and 18 and maybe the idea of them being ignored because they weren’t/aren’t playing every week is a bit absurd? Meghoma currently restricted to EFL cup games for Brentford right now, is he being ignored or is he taking a perfectly normal path for a young player? Kids of this age getting regular football in the Championship or PL are exceptions, and just because these two have been highlighted for a little while now doesn’t mean they should be treated exceptionally. The clubs relegation two seasons ago really set everyone back because we’ve now had to have two seasons of purely focusing on the immediate, these two and Ballard etc maybe the victims of that slightly but they are hardly being treated terribly for kids of their age. Where’s that evidence then compared to the previous manager?

Biggest fear is we are only days away from cringeworthy talksport interviews with Jim White.

The idea that two guys with just two international caps under their belts and both been available for transfer for a season and a half but not got one are highly rated internationals is a bit OTT, but yeah that’s opinion. The idea that theirs no downside to allowing someone who has quite clearly not wanted to be here for a while now and has been ignored from starting matches by two managers and had his attitude questioned by both publicly is you talking out of your arse, yes. That shit shouldn’t just be rewarded without earning it.

Would just like to remind people we still got relegated, finishing bottom with ABK at the back last time too. Rewarding someone who hasn't wanted to be here since seems a bit daft, but hey, all the managers we've had since were probably at fault and CanadaSaint knows best.

Quite a few people also didn't say that, as per my post.

Shocked that a PR piece in the German media isn't enough for people at the club who deal with him daily despite it being proof of everything they knew about ABK and Martin by people on here.

Where was that reported? I'm pretty sure the way the system works being on the past 5 years of accounts that they will be hugely benefiting from flying through the leagues and this is probably their best time to spend.

He didn’t get found out, he was a young guy making his first step in senior football on a regular basis and wasn’t really afforded the time to make mistakes because he had slightly more experienced players in front of him and we had a promotion to win. You can blame the system all you like but he was recruited due to his up bringing in a similar system and that system got us promoted and allowed others to shine. It’s just life that he’s improving and in a slightly less pressurised environment is being allowed to find his way this season. Sorry that doesn’t suit your ‘Russball was shit and should be shouted down on every topic possible’ narrative but sometimes it’s okay for some players to play bad and then play well.

Would also quite like to remind people that quite a lot of our players already have a relegation on their CV's, whether with us or elsewhere.

There is probably some merit to this and I'm open to the idea that Charles has improved this year, which was always likely to happen but I do think people are forgetting that the jump is quite big and Charles and Aribo were in the same team last season and one did a lot better than the other (albeit in different roles). Performances for Sheffield Wednesday don't just translate into performances for us in the PL in a struggling team.

That extra point, man it must have been good.

I’m not sure he’s a great example based on his team whoring himself to loads of clubs including us since last January but sure, point taken. Maybe the perfect striker is out there waiting to be chucked a few quid and I’ll be reminding myself of that as we continue to lump balls up to Onuachu from February to no success.

I’m understanding that you’re not going to turn up anymore if performances don’t improve and I’m suggesting that one way to improve it might be buying some new players rather than relying on ones who have yet to do so.

Right but that’s not quite the way it works though is it. Not only does only winning one game have consequences this season like potentially having to replace another manager but also imagine calling up said striker and saying ‘hey, yeah I know we were really shit last year and Leicester put up a fight of sorts and seem more appealing but we went through all that so we could chuck some more cash your way’ it isn’t quite the pull you think it is.

Which would be bad business, as would sacking a 2nd manager like the last time we were here.

To do this they will have to put in some performances for us which is a step up from the players that have been here two years now and are barely doing so.

I’m not even talking about survival I’m talking about watching someone that might hopefully be better than the current shite we’ve got.

I’m not even denying that 😂 I’m just pointing out that you’ve presumably got to go out of your house and go to St Mary’s quite a few more times this season before any fruitful future seasons arrive and endure the same shit every week, why wouldn’t you want to watch someone else have a crack ffs? Even if it’s just the hope that it might be different and it turns out it’s not. But nah, fuck it, let’s all watch us lump the ball up to Onuachu some more.

I think you’ve mis understood mate and not only that but I think that’s been explained to you before.

Okay well you enjoy watching the same attackers continue to struggle in this league then and don’t you dare at any stage wish for someone better over the next 18 games.

Improving the side is good business. I can’t actually believe people are encouraging the club not to invest but also presumably blaming the same people for our decline 😂

I was just laughing at the fact somebody is diagnosing THB as unfit with a bad attitude to fitness despite presumably never having met him or worked with him on any details of his actual fitness. Not every post needs to turn into a tirade about the club, but you do you I suppose