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Why is there even a vote? There is less than a 0.1% chance he will even be allowed to stay, and we should be considering it even less then that. 1.) every player currently on the books thinks he’s a cunt. 2.) a large proportion of the fan base think he’s a cunt, on the evidence available so far he is the most culpable for giving us our worst and most embarrassing moment in our 140 year history. 3.) We can't move on it he is here. 4.) Every press conference after a win, did you cheat? 5.) if he is some superstar how fucking stupid will we look when he eventually leaves for a better club, if we stick with him?

It’s going to be hard watching some p*ssed up Teesider get pepper sprayed for punching a police horse, knowing that should be me. Truth be told though, I don’t actually care who wins. Boro fans haven’t done or said anything ours wouldn’t have in the same situation and Gibson has done little other than fight his corner for his club, and it’s paid off.

I've caught the odd bit of the tributes to Pep. Their outstanding charges feels sharper after what we've gone through. Other than that, I've avoided the noise from the hacks about us. The next test will be how it feels should 'boro win, then their PL fortunes. Hopefully, I'll not give a jot. As for the wider PL, I've not missed not being in it. Simply the money it brings. And that gets hoovered up, trying to keep up. Looks as though even watching Valenciennes is going to be harder next season. I've my local team to support and connect to. Starts up Cheers Song ... Where everybody knows your name, And not because you're to blame You wanna be where you can see, They don't mention hiding behind a tree.

If the players want him to stay and there is no ban (hard to imagine), would you be hostile towards him? Have to say that I wouldn’t. We win our first 5 games of the season any hostility will quickly vanish. One thing we can say without any doubt is that all of us football fans of any club are all very fickle.

Which is all well and good, but do we know how long these FA investigations tend to take? How long did they take in 2019 to conclude Bielsa didn't warrant sanctioning, for example? The last thing we need is a substantial period of uncertainty waiting for the FA to get their shit together. One thing's for sure, I bet the FA won't have the same degree of urgency as the recent EFL steamroller...

Yes, it might even interrupt Solak’s lunch at this rate.

I think we'll likely hear from Dragon Solak tomorrow and get announcements on various decisions. I don't think the club wants to create any more noise ahead of the game today to give the media more stuff to batter about.

I'm just totally gutted as we should be in the final and at Wembley today. We won fair and square over two legs!

Actually, on reflection, yep, you're right... Come on Hull!

I’m starting to wonder whether as a result of the players and Tonda sitting down together (and assuming that the players are happy to work with him - those that are staying) that they’ve made a decision to try and stick with him as they see him as our best bet at getting back up next season. They will use Pannick or an equivalent to fight the FA charges as hard as they can and avoid a ban. A ban - he goes. No ban - he stays. Might be as black and white as that.

I should be on the train to Wembley now with thousands of other saints fans, my partner and sister, meeting other family and friends. Gonna have to keep myself busy with manual labour today - that pollen count must be extra high today cos my eyes are very red…

Absolutely not. I don't think I could cope seeing Gibson's face and that cry baby manager celebrating. Hull MUST win

I'm at the 'football can fuck off, i'm doing gardening today' stage.

Medium-well, at least.

Anyone watching it? I won’t be. Can’t face it. Going to the village pub and sitting in the beer garden for a couple of hours. Got my day mapped out to avoid it. No radio on this morning and no mainstream websites like the Beeb.

To be perfectly honest, I immediately went to the, “yep, don’t give a sh*t,” phase as soon as I heard we’d been kicked out. After the 12 points, the 9-0s, the ridiculous signings, the defeats snatched from the jaws of victory and everything else, I just can’t even pretend to be upset. Saints are like your d*ck head ex. Who kept doing more and more dramatic things for diminishing returns of attention, to the point that you eventually just stop caring. Whats next Saints, the entire squad caught rabies from some bats, on a preseason tour of Asia? A meteorite flattened St Mary’s? Sure if you want.

Yup... As per the conspiracy theory I appended to my post... P.s. I always prefer steaks on my plate...

Before you get into the morals, the practicalities mean it’s inconceivable he’s not sacked. He’ll face a ban, then what do we do, put Lallana in charge until he’s back? We’re starting 4 points behind everyone else, we need to hit the ground running. Im a big right man/right time type of Bloke. Claudio Ranerai right man at Leicester for that exact moment. Tonda did a great job getting very good under performing players playing to their potential, and he was tactically excellent. That’s not going to be the job this time. This is going to need a backs to the wall, those bastards are all against us, Manager who can get average players playing well. A manager who has seen it all and will not be put off by anything. Is that Tonda? Who knows. But this isn’t going to be the same club he took over from Still. You also can’t tell me there won’t be some resentment around the club if he stays, not just players, but support staff and supporters. If he loses early, things are going to get very tasty very early. So from a practical point, it’s a No. From a “is he the right fit”, it’s a maybe, and from the moral point of view, I think he’ll be damn lucky to keep his job.

Who knows. The steaks were far higher v Boro maybe

Looks like what ever internal investigations that are happening are deeper than we all anticipated

That doesn't add up...If all these clubs knew it was going to happen, why didn't they 'do a Middlesbrough' and catch us (photographs etc) in the act? The irony is, they'd have actually done us a favour if a club had reported it earlier in the season... Edit: conspiracy theory... Maybe they all colluded to not report it until it happened in the playoffs, knowing the punishment would likely be greater...?

Four days, total silenced no accountability. Sport Republic.

Am I the only one who won't be too fussed if Middlesbrough win? If that happens, there's the possibility of Hull starting legal proceedings (according to reports) and even if they do get to the PL it'll be amusing watching them suffer week in week out (although there's a chance they could 'do a Sunderland' of course)...

Wouldn’t shock me