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And that's the thing Manning is having a brilliant season for goals/assists that it outweighs the potential defensive problems

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Why should we?

How about we play Boro again and the winner goes to the final?

No.

Was in the car listening on our way back from seeing family in Southampton, they mentioned lots of red, empty seats in the upper tier for both teams, we all (family) said uniformly "Saints v Leeds would've been full".

What's the family block?

Captain Jack, Cam Bragg, JayRob and Cam Archer and Dragan's 1.6 billion squid will absolutely dick the Vanarama National League next year. 😇

If I had any mates I’m sure I’d get similar messages of support. My dog, who is generally supportive, hasn’t got too engaged with this issue, which is somewhat disappointing.

There is a lot of truth in that, I heard it too. First of all I heard it from the voice in my head (one of many), secondly you said it, ergo, it’s as much of a fact as the overwhelming number of other conjecture that has been reported as fact. All we need now is another ten people to repeat it and it does, in fact, become fact! Case closed. Welcome aboard Hayden!

Category 3 tickets for me and the boy in Level 1.

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WAAAAAAASAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! There. That should be enough noise for an auto-promotion and 12 free points should we ever return to the EFL. 🙂

Only top tier left? Does that mean family block all gone?

It kind of is. As has been pointed out from a legal stand point; "In Derby v EFL (SR/017/2020) (Derby), an EFL disciplinary commission set out four purposes a sanction must serve: 1. Punishment of the club for the breach 2. Vindication for other clubs not engaged in conduct that breached the rules 3. Deterrence from future rule breaches, whether by the breaching club or other clubs 4. Restoration and preservation of public confidence in the fairness of EFL competitions. The appeal board in Everton, when considering Derby, went on to clarify that punishment is far less important than maintaining the integrity of the competition and the sport of football, with deterrence being an important overlapping aim (paragraph 199)" Point 4 is the key one here. They will want to make sure that any punishment isn't seen as a token one with us basically completely getting away with it. No, we're almost certainly not getting thrown out - although it is clear that they aren't ruling that option out - but it won't be just a fine or a token points deduction either, it will be a sporting sanction which is significant enough to act as a serious deterrent and satisfy outside observers that we've been punished accordingly.

That's good. We can make that then

Why not tell Grizzleborough to STFU.

I said the punishment needed to be taken seriously, not that it needed to be as harsh as possible.

It isn't irrelevant. It's a clear example of a club gaining an unfair sporting advantage over several seasons which lead to automatic promotion. It's exactly the kind of thing we would include in an appeal.

Not sure that’s how it works.

So if Boro shout loud enough we could be kicked out of the EFL entirely. Interesting.

What Leicester got is irrelevant, the EFL will need to make sure any punishment is taken seriously because of the fuss that Boro have kicked up about it.

And you know all this how?

The club needs an arse kicking, not necessarily because they spied but because this pillock was fucking useless at doing it.

6 points is too much, 3 would be more appropriate imo.