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I find the need for some of the fanbase to routinely pick on/mock Downs, even when he's done nothing to warrant it, quite tedious. Even before the goal there were various fans online performatively moaning about him when his performance and effort levels were fine and no different to the majority of the team On the goal specifically, watch it back. He feints in that direction and very deliberately takes it round the outside of the keeper because he has a covering defender on the inside. It wasn't 'a touch that was supposed to go in the opposite direction' at all. He then beats the defender but as the defender slides past the ball does knock against his other leg and keep the ball in his stride, doing him a favour. But fair enough, that's hardly some sort of circus act that would only happen to Downs He's got a lot to prove but it is so tiresome that even when he isn't being shit people have to try and rip the bloke

I missed it myself, but apparently Adam Blackmore mentioned on commentary that there's a training ground game against Paderborn (newly-promoted to the Bundesliga) in the middle of the week, before the camp ends with the game against Preußen Münster

Not sure what you mean by ‘as good a job’? Is that at being a GK or at being part of a group of players that gel? My argument was that the latter is as, if not more important. Having said that, I do think that Ramsdale could quite easily re-integrate himself into the team dynamic, however Peretz experienced last season where a real team identity developed under Eckhert.

You’re usually better than that. Try to stretch your intellect a little and try to explain why you disagree with my view.

Agree - on those matters how he deals with his backbenchers and how pragmatic they are willing to be will determine whether he keeps his job and whether they do too

His success and failure is going to hinge on how he can successfully navigate the difficult choice he will inevitably have to make on servicing debt, welfare reform and immigration. Maybe his ability to communicate and vibes based politics will be enough to persuade people. He will do a better job of it than Starmer ever did at any rate.

Define normal in our wonderful diverse world

Nice words and I agree that most reasonable people wouldn’t say that buts it’s convient to say that when you might be perceived to have views on the same side of those on the political spectrum who are saying those things (to be clear I’m not saying you agree with them at all) . A close family member runs an office and they had to call out a junior member of staff who said he was glad she was dead last week and say they shouldn’t be discussing politics inthe office. Unfortunately those who are more politicised on the left, particularly the younger age group, seem to be stooping to lower levels than those on the right currently, which I would admit is probably an inverse from the past.

Fair enough and that’s quite obvious - I agree that being a mayor of a city shows a degree of experience in being able to administratively running a public organisation. My point is that that is by no means an indicator of likely success as running a country is very different. My personal view is somebody that has successfully held a serious role in government, such as chancellor, would be a better likely indicator of success. @badgerx16 own opinion of BJ being mayor of a city supports this

Of course but no prime minister has experience of being prime minister until they are appointed.

That's true but my personal opinion is if they appoint a new prime minister with a completely different set of priorities who wasn't even an MP at the general election, then they will lose a fair amount of legitimacy and can't honestly claim to have a mandate. Regardless of the party I think there should be an election.

I agree. Same therefor applies to Burnham. Have a good night

Like I said he hasn’t set out his policies but he needs to do that before a GE. If he believes in them why not announce them and test them first before asking the electorate for a mandate. This is hypothetical to be honest because he hasn’t called a GE and I don’t think he will immediately cause it’s too risky

So, even if Boris was a good Mayor, this was no measure of his suitability to be PM. Anyway, that's enough for tonight - Siouxsie and the Banshees are on telly. Good night.

Running a city with its local politics is very different to running a country and the competing interests between multiple regions

If a Government runs to term, the majority of the policies it introduces are not found in the original GE manifesto.

I don't think it's irrelevant. Politics is a big popularity contest most of the time and he's way more likable and better at it than Starmer ever was. In order for labour to succeed they need to persuade red wall seats and his prioritising of the north and his popularity in Manchester will assist them to do that. I think he will win the next election as long as he doesn't do anything too stupid.

Thanks for explaining democracy. It’s genuinely appreciated, particularly as I’m mentally challenged . AB has been very quiet about his policies. If he is actually going to be a good pm he should put them to the test and then go to a GE. I hope he does rather than avoid testing them and call an early GE. Otherwise wouldn’t that suggest he isn’t confident that his policies will be successful- agree?

No worries, I'm sure loads of us on here flooded the mailbag with applications. Safety in numbers and all that, we'll be guaranteed to have at least one make it through and infiltrate the FAB.

So running a harder gig, being a good mayor of London, and you thought BJ was a bad PM. So why would AB be a good PM based on his role in Manchester? My point is being mayor of Manchester is pretty much irrelevant.

Absolute AI savagery 🤣

If the opposition know you are watching them it defeats the point of spying, they would just make sure they didn’t practice any set pieces or formations they would use in the game. Or as Paul Scholes said, they would use it to their advantage and fake injuries and practice fake formations etc. The idea that we didn’t know the rules is obviously complete nonsense, but the fact that they were disguised doesn’t mean anything.

Boris ? A shambles.

I think identity as fairly normal and that is clearly the issue.

So he won't be persuading you, as a mentally challenged southerner ? Like a few on here, you don't seem to understand how our democracy works. At a GE the electorate are given a choice of proposed policies, and a significant minority of them end up with their choice being selected. The majority of the electorate end up disappointed, and spend the next Parliamentary term complaining.