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I would be amazed if after this they didn't follow up accounts for the following years. If precedent has been sent, you can only assume it's continued. Last year Ethiad sponsorship was still £90m a year and Puma £100m

Every match and trophy City won since the very first of the charges they face is tarnished and that includes the ones under Pep. All the financial cheating built the club up to where they are today so I don't consider it only covers the period up to 2018. All the cheating had a knock-on effect.

Jesus Christ! imagine living in that household… Mrs MLG, ‘ Honey you want to make love tonight?’ MLG , ‘ Which one, Eros, philia , storge, agape, Ludus , pragma or philautia Mrs MLG, ‘ actually, I’ve got a headache coming on’.

I loved that, but the 606 highlight for me was when someone started of with a reasonable conversation and then suddenly said to David Mellor, words to the effect of ,”and by the way I think your a c*nt” which was broadcast live on air.

I imagine Simon Pearce is bricking it.

My older brother went to this when both Baker and Bruce were with Graham Bond. Apparently, the Moody Blues were booed as their stuff was too pop-orientated.

That’s not true though is it ? There’s a difference between paying them “their worth” and paying them what they think they’re worth. For JJM we weren’t going to match silly money for a teenager reported at the time that he’d been offered at Chelsea. Gomes is a shame he left but at the time I read that one of his gripes was limited prospects of a pathway to the first team and not being involved or around the first team often. Perhaps mismanagement or perhaps someone at SFC at the time didn’t think he was that advanced.

City fan I know (lifelong one from back when they were shit) desperately wants this to happen so he can go back to supporting a 'proper' club again.

As Ireland play Israel again end of this week I assume this will rumble on, whats the latest? Has Gav updated his Facebook profile picture to a Palestinian flag?

Good one. Used to be good listening and entertaining on the way home from a match. Immediately switch off in recent years when we had Sutton and Savage trying to fabricate a discussion. Even ‘Call me David’ Mellor was an improvement on those two.

Their owners must be made to sell the club, at a minimum imo. Irreversible damage to the reputation of the PL. And the money side of the game has always been off putting anyway

Thankfully under Burnham we are moving into more compassionate times.

From the BBC article published yesterday

No one would give a toss about Ballard had Downs turned out to be remotely competent. He was not and to be fair, a complete joke of a signing (and a very expensive one). The club clearly believed he was a far better bet than Ballard (and a whole host of other, evidently superior striker on the market/in the league that summer. We were the powerhouse of the league and we saw a very bright talent leave and signed the DOUBLE D.

Running my own business, I'll be amazed if HMRC don't get involved as it's basically corporate fraud. If they do criminal chargers etc could well follow as falsifying company records is a huge red flag.

Not that "abundantly obvious". He's signed for Bristol City not Barcelona. Let's see where his career actually takes him. The other two were kids who were attracted to better offers. Southampton Football Club do not control the world. Not everything is decided by us. People make their own choices. Life is a bit more complicated that you're making out.

Ssssshhhhhhh!!!!!!

We weren't powerless to prevent them leaving, we opted to allow them to leave rather than pay them their worth. That's a choice the club actively made. And as has been stated to death, Ballard should have been retained and thats abundantly obvious. He should certainly have been given game time over the multi million pound flops we've singed in the interim, or worst case he should have been given a new contract and allowed further loan development time.

I hope they stay in the premier league...don't want anything too damaging otherwise their ladies team will suffer.

Not going to happen I guess but I just think it would be a good scenario, Ramsdale and Peretz competing for number one and keeping each other honest.

We are past just a points deduction and fine, I think. Even if the PL do something as weak and pathetic as that (which I doubt, because they have to preserve the league somehow.. the eyes of the world are watching), every other club will sue city into oblivion. The precedent there is already set by Burnley & Everton. We are in uncharted waters here.

To be fair, many clubs have benefited from their money too. I think they should have a massive points deduction this season then start next year in League 2 on -20 and maybe start each of the next few seasons on -20 to avoid them just having a jolly getting promoted every year. Money talks though so I wouldn’t be surprised if they get away with a points deduction this year and massive fine.

Well utd, Arsenal and Spurs have lodged there appeal for compo should it happen

Yep, they've done all sorts of harm. Clubs like us have been massively impacted. Putting aside the on pitch advantage they've gained, they've driven up prices and wages. That's made it more difficult for us to remain competitive, and comply with PSR. The 16 championship clubs who were in the PL whilst City were cheating, could all point to City and argue that their antics directly and indirectly helped put them there. If this is upheld, the fall out should be massive

From what I've read from a few Journalists the base line is relegation to League 2. For them to end up in the Championship or even League 1, they'd need a majority from the 72 clubs for this to happen by means of a vote. This then opens a can of worms with the knock on effect of additional teams being promoted/relegated to get the league numbers back to the right level. But let's be honest, they wouldn't get the support from EFL clubs anyway