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Sigh. So you think an intern with an iPhone watching a Boro training session less than 72 hours before a match is comparable to what Leicester did? Jesus wept.

On Stephens, Wood has made a few strong, long passes, is a presence at set pieces, and has got back very quickly when needed. So, I can see an argument for keeping him.

If Stephens can show he is fit, he should come back in in my opinion. Wood should be commended on the job he has done the last few games but I feel we looked more solid with the THB/Stephens pairing. The only other change I would make from Boro home game is Downes in for Charles, who will obviously still have an important role coming on later. Would keep Stewart in up top, thought he had a good game on Tuesday, Larin to come on later.

It would probably be a straight suspension, not just a touchline ban. But I’m sure the club would have prepared for that outcome. It might start with an injunction seeking a delay in the ban until after Saturday, on the grounds that the removal of Tonda so soon before the final places Saints at an extreme disadvantage. Far more so than an intern with a cell phone spying illegally on a training session.

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A touchline ban isnt so far fetched, could the club fire him in an effort to distance them self's from the bad publicity ? who knows Depends on if this is a one off

A lengthy ban from what though? Managing Saints? Don't think the EFL can tell the club who to employ. The touchline? So what? If it is Tondas orders, think it more likely he would be fired by the club. EFL will only be interested in punishment for the club...if any of it is true (not proven guilty yet). Think someone is telling you porkies!

Tonda is in the shit mainly, stuff coming out recently about him potentially getting a lenghy ban I don’t think is that far off the mark. As I said though could be bollocks, stuff I have been told recently I’ve taken with a pinch of Salt

Surely the person who told you that gave an indication about how it has gone.

Apparently hearing is done and we will hear tomorrow. Could be bollocks though. Hope this helps.

When you said “Think like a lawyer” I assumed you were referring to Boro’s supposed financial loss, for which they will doubtless pursue compensation. That’s separate to the disciplinary issue, in which they are not involved, and my argument is that they can’t prove any.

I reckon a two point deduction in the Premier League or a six point deduction in the Championship might just about be fair. Anything more is disproportionate to the offence committed

The regulation just penalises the act of observing another team's training (within 72 hours). There is no mention of any impact, effect or otherwise. "our analyst was caught bang to rights" Oh dear. There are two things wrong with that statement. Think like a lawyer

It will be interesting to see how EFL or PL after the decision will deal with any outside impacts on game results. Incorrect VAR decisions, ineligible players playing in Cup wing games or European qualifiers, over spending etc. If we get something over the top then that's going to set the media frenzy again.

The whole point is that it is very easy to say oh it had no impact on the result and of course it probably had no effect. Unfortunately our analyst was caught bang to rights filming their training and breaking the rules. You cannot just say yeah yeah bit it made no difference lets just crack on.

Its a very strange statement not to set a date and just have this open ended announcement.

Having checked in on this thread every other hour yesterday, I've given it a rest today until now and see common sense is taking control. We will probably be given a fine. but anything more than a few hundred thousand will be a gross injustice for what is a minor infringement of the rules. Watching the horse racing on TV yesterday, I seen Gibson was keen to speak to the commentary team. He can't stop himself, can he? The Sunday Times article today puts this story in perspectice. It's a farcical almost comedic story that's been taken far too seriously for it's own good...and it's had absolutely no impact on the result of the matches.

To clarify; the hearing will take place on or before Tuesday 19th May. That doesn't necessarily mean we'll have a verdict the same day

Those are citable reasons for them missing out. Your turn. Produce one citable example of how the alleged spying caused them to lose. Not some wild and unprovable assumption.

By Tuesday whatever that means.

By Tuesday at the latest, I believe

Think like a lawyer

Will we get the verdict tomorrow by 4.30pm?

Absolutely. They’re looking for someone to blame but they should be looking in the mirror. They were the ones who missed the chances, not us or William Salt or Tonda. And they were the ones who hired a coach who had them playing an aggressive, hard press that they weren’t fit enough to sustain. In fact, this is probably why they shit the bed on the run-in. So they were the ones who threw away their auto place. They shouldn’t have needed the playoffs. Orchestrators of their own misfortune. Cry me a river.

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