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  2. For me, it's the ongoing commentary from the media and the piousness/hypocrisy of opinion. "Cheat" is such an emotive word and doesn't feel like it's proportionally used – the example in the Mourinho documentary won't lead people to call Chelsea cheats (beyond any of their other antics) because, as people have stated, it's not against any specific rules in the Prem. It's comparable to (and arguably as egregious as) what we did in terms of benefits. We breached specific EFL rules with Spygate though, so we're being branded as cheats. So if breaking the rules = cheating, why aren't Everton, Forest and Leicester considered cheats for breaching PSR? If "cheating" means deliberately seeking an unfair sporting advantage through dishonest means (irrespective of whether there are specific rules in place or not), why aren't Leeds described as cheats?
  3. I wasn't counting the other 384 times, just today (so far)...
  4. So Chelsea getting a 10 million pound fine for "cheating" is ok? I'm uncomfortable with how we've been treated. I genuinely believe that had it not been a trial by media we'd have got much lighter. "He's highlighting the proportionality of the punishment, not arguing against the application of a punishment at all" CORRECT I expected a fine, I expected a suspended punishment. But more to the point i didn't expect us to be vilified in the press as much as we have based on numerous clubs doing the same and it being lauded like the example I gave. The league ruling shouldn't change the opinion on what has been done.
  5. Don't be so melodramatic. Boro proved to everybody that they weren't good enough to get promoted so to talk about 'cheating' them out of a chance of £200m is risible. Any man and his dog could have stood on that footpath.
  6. Except here. But that’s a minor detail I suppose. Also don’t change your opinion on Eckert. Your much more relevant when sticking to your stupidity.
  7. It's why all the best posters have left.
  8. Take putdowns and condescension out of this forum and there won't be much left.
  9. TE = Miles better than the one trick pony... learnt to adapt and learn, where as your crush has one way and it fails everywhere
  10. If Eckert gets us promoted and you try and claim we’ve done it inspite of a manger again that’ll run it close.
  11. To be fair, it's way more than '1'
  12. Do we really want to talk about managerial judgement? Are you going to watch us next season or go into hiding again and only pipe up when we drop points like last season? Wrong that Martin is better than Rooney? Okay.
  13. Dang... Scuppered due to thinking out loud on a football forum yet again... Saintsweb Intelligentsia 1 Trousers 0
  14. Not as funny as your constant defending of Martin, they will never be surpassed with anything funnier...
  15. Looks like they, and many other people were wrong about that.
  16. Fab's nailed on; unopposed. Ever since he was proven right about Romeu's future he's been unbearable. Pity, he writes a lot of sense in between putdowns and condescension.
  17. Yep, but their judgement about managers turned out as well as yours.. We were promoted in spite of him not because
  18. Your incorrect Harry Enfield quotes were funnier fwiw.
  19. That would have been entirely inconsistent with every other punishment ever handed out for confirmed cheating in a cup competition. There really would have been a case of 'moral incosistency' had that happened.
  20. We're definitely not as good as Derry City, for sure...
  21. Yes, but they chose Russel Martin not Wayne Rooney presumably because they thought he was better? 😂
  22. Clutching at straws there. Martin had the opportunity to manage us in the Premier League. He had the opportunity to take us to the heady heights of the Europa League. He failed. Miserably. The Europa League games for Rangers were despite Martin, not because of him. Literally any manager they chose to manage the team at the start of last season would have been 'managing in a Europa League game'. Any manager. Even Wayne Rooney had they chosen him.
  23. Thus knocking us out of the competition? Or are you implying that would have been put in place and crossed all legal barriers before the 2nd leg? I’m not sure that could be reasonably argued tbh, especially given there is probably zero precedent for that?
  24. 🤣
  25. So does a team from the Lichtenstein top flight.
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