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Agreed. Yet Wood is also pretty awful so you may as well spin a coin to see who plays. Personally I prefer Jack of the two but am hoping this Abbott loan works out well for us.

Never had you down as someone who makes stuff up. Agree about TE tactical nous though just disagree with the selection of Stephens, thought different opinions were standard for football forums

Stephens is a good player. The problem is just that he's not as good as he thinks he is. Hence errors from being too clever and cocking up.

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You wanted Tonda sacked every week last season. Have you not worked out he has more tactical nous than Saintsweb posters yet?

Look we can't just stick with wood and schlotter because there will be a time rotation is important so better now than when there is no other choice.

Manning didn’t make Stephens shit 10 years ago and it’s still not his fault today. The point was irrelevant anyway because Stephens will be lining up on the right side today.

Good line up that. Welly in due to the physicality and directness I guess, which Tonda learnt about on here. Spying git. Edit. Just seen Cap'n Jack is in. FFS. We're doomed.

Yeah, but other than that..?

Happy clapper😉

I wonder why a club like Bournemouth would have voted against it?

Pretty decent bench at this level too

Hysterical tart!

Trying to be too clever seems a common theme in his career. Better to clear your lines than give it away to an attacker whose 10 yards away. Appreciate that's a philosphy from the 80's or 90's but sometimes it's a necessary evil.

That line up is ok. Very confident

He didn’t defend, he let him run to edge of six yard box and have a shot to score

It’s not hate, we just can do better. THat said he is usually ok when coming back from being dropped and concentrates

Augsburg fans (and journalists) have been pretty adamant that Schlotterbeck does make quite a few mistakes and apparently had a bit of a stinking pre-season... so it probably wasn't a one-off at Birmingham. They just appreciated his commitment and aggression and felt that over the longer run it made enough amends for the mistakes

A centre back having to defend? Oh no whatever next, someone will ask him to make a tackle?

Yes he is better on the ball, but he tried to be too clever against Watford in an attempt to retain possession and paid the price for it. Wood just gets rid of it more often, which does alleviate pressure but just coughs up the ball to the other team higher up the pitch, which is probably something that coaches don't necessarily appreciate either

Unless this was all discussed and agreed, I feel sorry for him. It's unlikely they will get into the CL again any time soon.

I agree, but at least 14 of the 20 Premier League clubs voted for it. There was an additional proposal which was anchoring spend against the lowest income but this didn't get through. This would have limited the spending power of all clubs but I think even clubs like B'mouth, Brighton and Palace voted against it.

Ah shit, here we go again... Captain Jack ahoy!

I think the difference with Schlotterbeck was that it was his first game in England against a pretty physical and intense Birmingham team. Willing to cut him a bit of slack for that. No hate for Stephens, I just think we have better options and shouldn't keep playing him just because he's great to have around.

Stephens was under pressure on the first game because he had to mark the space that Manning left behind him. With no Manning, hopefully that's less of an issue