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I found it mildly interesting to read that the club ‘acknowledged’ the FA’s charge rather ‘agreeing’ to it. To me that means there could be a day in court if the punishment is too draconian. Let’s face it, Eckhert has already been punished along with the club by the EFL in that his professional reputation in the UK has been tarnished and he has lost the opportunity to earn an improved salary (and possibly bonuses) through promotion to the EPL. To ban Eckhert would also impact the club as a whole, including the intern(s) involved in ‘the incident’, so I would have thought a fine and a suspended ban of 3 games would be the right level of punishment under the circumstances. Any other punishment that impacted the clubs success further should rightly be challenged vigorously.

And with that, Zebedee wished all the children of the magic roundabout goodnight. 🙂

You get what you pay for. Just sayin’!

Jamie Vardy is a free agent. Just sayin’

Might go and see it later this week too but three hours? Seems excessive. I watched Oppenheimer and thought that was a bit of a mess and felt it jumped around too much without any real need to. Also, Nolan films are shit for dialogue clarity. So, better than Oppenheimer?

You could always opt out of responding if you find it too strenuous.

Well done VA!

Feminist take: I've certainly rolled my eyes on things that set out as a bandwagon. The guy who put together a war of the worlds remake saying it was commissioned only when he gave it a feminist makeover, for example. Certainly people have no shortage of bandwagons either.to have an opinion from Here, there's nothing touching that, that isn't part of the source works. Thought provoking, and adding to the depth, and not cheerleading a cause. I had to look up Ellen, now Elliot, Page. A smaller, but quite key role without spoiling anything, and did really well. Cast is top notch throughout though. Everyone gets their turn to shine at some point too, even if it's not on their first scene.

Because they are more bent than a banana?

CB, you often make good points on here but, just as often, you go full-on "straw man" to support your own personal and stridently expressed theory. Just as I didn't say "it's not against the rules", I didn't suggest "there is going to (be) a raft of spying charges against Premier League teams because of some 'precedent' being set." My point was that the FA - who are notoriously reluctant to hold the big clubs to account for even blatant transgressions - might want to tread very carefully before wielding a meat cleaver on this one, for fear of having to take similar action against really big clubs with really smart lawyers. Or even smaller clubs with really smart lawyers. I'm fine with seeing things differently to you - without misrepresenting what you said in an attempt make my viewpoint seem more credible. They're just opinions.

I think we all know the answer to that

The big BBC report failed to mention anything about his time with us, which included his best ever goal tally for a season. It was poor journalism .

I’d like to think that our owners have made provisions in case Tonda does get a lengthy ban, and we have someone lined up to come in on a temporary basis, or permanent if it’s necessary. Then I remember our owners are Soort Republic.

I have to deal with it at work. But that doesn’t mean I ever have to like it.

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Precedent setting in that other clubs will tighten things up so that they don't ever get caught spying, you mean? Sounds like a good thing. If you think suddenly there is going to a raft of spying charges against Premier League teams because of some "precedent" being set then you are going to be very disappointed. I think we have to accept that only our idiot club are stupid enough to get caught. Anyway, the FA charges will mainly about the spying but I would think it will cover the culture around the coaching team as well, through the lens of Tonda being the head of that.

No, it's not the club's fault that the FA have taken so long. But I feel they could have been far more vocal in applying pressure to speed things up. Can't help feeling that a bigger, better connected club wouldn't have been meekly sitting back waiting for the FA's open-ended process to play out, so that we end up with a decision and potential ban looming right at the start of the season. They would have at least been making it known through media channels that the club are keen for matter to be resolved quickly and feel it would be unacceptable for FA to drag their feet on it all summer.

Some, I think...but it is now official

We need Arnie to travel back in time and stop this - ASAP https://news.sky.com/story/openai-admits-its-models-hacked-another-company-in-unprecedented-cyber-incident-13565814

Pilchards - I’m giving it another couple of games but early indications side with you ! Not sure why they started with McKinney - I thought he was squad filler like Lumsden. Can only assume Pepper is injured. Didnt watch much of it but what I saw was pretty boring with a bored crowd. Also not sure about home advantage when none of your players play there…..

Was there anyone who thought he wouldn't be?

The timing is interesting, we'll be in Germany probably when any decision is announced. Maybe we can get around any ban by Tonda coaching the team out there, and then flying the team in and out for every game... for clarity, I am not being serious

Can't be, Dragan said in his apology vid that wrong decisions were a thing of the past.

I'd rather have a suspended Tonda than a Will Sill (nothing personal, could have been any number of names inserted) on the sidelines for the start of the season. Standing by him was the right thing to do. And time will prove that. This thread will go on to be the most bumped/bookmarked thread in SW's history.

Yep, likewise. They're obviously not going to be mentioning Saints in the headlines as we very obviously weren't the top highlight of his career (not saying he didn't like his time here but we obviously put more weight on his time here than he probably did), but he's definitely been mentioned in the reporting that I've seen.