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The consensus on this thread, I think, is that the war was/is justified. If it was/is, why would we not join the party? I'm firmly of the view that it wasn't justified, despite how bad the Iranian regime was, and that we shouldn't go anywhere near it.

For the clubs it may be about money, but don't discount the impact of the play offs on a huge amount of fans. It keeps our interest to the latter end of the season, our current position in the table is a great example of that. Yes, it would be fairer if the top 3 teams went up, but personally I prefer a play off system to consigning the vast majority of games in the last quarter of the season to be meaningless.

Sunderland finished 4th last season not 6th. It's been years since a 6th placed team won them, Blackpool maybe?

For someone who thought the US should "get out of the business of regime change", Trump stating the he must be involved in the selection of the next Iranian leader seems to be a U turn. I suppose they will just keep executing each person selected until there is one He approves of.

Why does anyone want us to get involved? Feels like a lot of people are laying in to Starmer about it, but I find it hard to believe the vast majority of the population don't agree that staying out is incredibly sensible. Iraq was only 20ish years ago ffs.

This is the purist view of course. But you surely have to acknowledge that in a 24 team league the play offs do add a lot in terms of keeping the the last 10-15 games of every season interesting for a lot more clubs and their fans? Would we be giving a flying f*ck about the rest of the season now and monitoring the league table each game if it weren't for the play-offs?

It's shit. They should make the semi-finals one leg and at the Millennium Stadium. Just for fun.

My thinking was that the two teams with the most points/best GD have a greater chance of reaching the final. With the system that's being proposed you could end up with the teams that finished 7th and 8th facing each other at Wembley. There should be greater jeopardy for the lower placed teams IMO. But on reflection, I guess that also means that one of the two teams in 3rd and 4th is also guaranteed not to be in the final. So I get that it's not a perfect solution.

Remembering how amazing promotion via the playoffs felt, not against the expansion. But, let's face it, they've done this to make more money. If it was this season, it would leave us feeling far happier right now.

Heard a young American woman referring to the risk of going outside and being ’unalived’. What’s wrong with killed? While I’m at it why and when did died/dead become passed. Makes them sound like some kind of midfielder.

watch us finish 8th next season and everyone being very excited about our chances of a Wembley final and possible promotion.

With regards to the free travel to Preston for a select few I see this as a direct try to put Nicks away coaches out if busnesss or at least reduce the amount of coaches they take . What’s the betting you’ll start to earn loyalty points for using club transport.

No no, Nige and Sultana say everyone should stop doing anything, I mean, why are you still shopping? Why are you showering? Why are you watching the latest box set on TV and going for lunch with a work colleague, it's nearly WW3 ... 🌚 These people are insane.

Nice to see they are prioritising the really important stuff; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15615693/67-dog-breeds-banned-Britain-list.html

I have never agreed with play offs. I know it generates money but I have always felt that after a 46 match season the top 3 deserve their promotion.

Lots of Saints changes included in the updated database due out next week...

It will be, but have to remember that ‘luck’ will play a great part in how this pans out, specifically injuries and suspensions. If Peretz suddenly is out for a few weeks, we’re buggered if relying on Long and the Warrington bloke. Not sure he’ll be able to do much about that. Beat Fulham at the weekend we could also derail our own season with a fixture pile up and be hampered by our own success. But as you say be interesting to see how he handles the challenges.

the short term gain of promotion will become a long term financial disaster for the weaker sides. Sunderland seem to be surviving in the Prem. after finishing 6th last season, but of the top two; from last season ... Leeds will be glad if they survive ...whilst Wolves are already down again. The quality gap between the two leagues is beyond comparison, (as seen last season) when all 3 promoted sides came back down in their first season up. The cost of promotion starts with around 100 million to try and get some experience into the squad, then trying to fill the inevitable gaps in the January window puts clubs in debt and the impending relegation cuts in income when back down in the Championship, and the better player will want away. The later threat of points deductions may take the team into another relegation struggle , and Leicester are the prime example of a side who won the Premier League title in recent history. No sorry, it may sound exciting for clubs to dream of a season in the Prem, but that may be the beginning and the end of the glory.

How would that possibly be fairer?

Hahaha yeah what a right old laugh, paedophilia. Crank.

Wrong ! ( No surprise ). He was appointed Governor of the Bahamas in 1940 to effectively get him out of the way for the duration. He resigned from the position before the war ended, ( March 16th 1945 ), and returned to Paris.

I think most of us are on the same journey with Tonda. Massively underwhelmed that we weren't going for a more experienced manager with past playing experience like Carrick but also aware of the recent question marks over any experienced candidate interviewed/linked. He smashed the interim period out of the park, making it difficult to not award him the job before then going on a dip of form where we all thought, "told you so". Then he's picked it back up, learning well on the job and as many posters have pointed out, our form under his management is right up there compared with the rest of the league. We are now looking at a points per game average under Tonda that compares very closely to Martin's for us in the Championship. That is pretty much the rate Boro have been achieving all season and it looks to be there or there about for automatic promotion this season. Question marks over ability to handle Premier League tactical and player demands are not of any relevance at this time. His record, given his inexperience has been and continues to be impressive and it's difficult to imagine any other replacement doing much better considering how well he is fairing against other teams during his tenure. He now moves into the business end of the season and how he handles that will be interesting.

Hic

Are you ever going to fuck off? Are you now out of your maudlin self pity phase desperate to be missed?