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a few yellow cards would soon stop that,players just need to be hammered into line,just give referees the power to sort things out,not bring in a rule and then 2 weeks later its allowed to slip

Big striker or not, we should’ve gone to a back 4 way before we did. Was so blatantly obvious we needed the extra man in midfield rather than playing Fellows at RWB and knocking it around the back 5 before giving it away. And with Manning’s complete lack of positional awareness, the formation was killing us. A CB at RB would’ve been far better than a 5 with Fellows and Manning

Tonda/Spors identified early, but couldn't change it until an window opened, so kept the soundbites appropriate. We desperately needed a keeper and big striker. Both have been a great impact in helping the team, as well as the switch to the back 4.

Do you think he identified the problems quickly enough? For me they were so blatantly obviously only someone with deceitful eyes would claim otherwise and frankly I didn't buy into the "height" bullshit. Don't get me wrong I think he's doing well and I do wonder if he's getting less interference now we're getting results??

Terry Curran 🤣

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So far, Tonda's tenure can be divided into three 7 match chunks... - An excellent first 7 - A poor next 7 - An excellent last 7 Here's hoping he can break that cycle over the next 7 games...

I think the squad argument only really works since Peretz came in (and to a degree Larin as well). Before that we were playing with a hopeless GK, so didn't really have anywhere near the best team in the division. Form since Peretz = job done well:

Absolutely unforgivable how bad he made us. Has to go down as one of our worst managers of all time. And that’s quite the accolade considering the absolute muppets we’ve employed.

I wanted it to be the aap3 (or is it aap³)?

Credit to him, he’s completely turned us around. His one limitation so far is in-game substitutions still seem to be a bit robotic. I think this will come with experience. Also, he’s more than made up for that in how he’s re-built the side. So nice to have a settled eleven and not playing in a stupid 5 at the back. Literally just doing the basics and the obvious things has made us look like a football team again. Who knew.

He is doing well for a team with players that should be top 3. Being 7th is not his fault (nice one Will), but Tonda needs to get some big game wins under him. Boro away was pathetic, Pompey away was meh, let's see how he handles March. The talk on here earlier in the season of Saints not having a good squad was hilarious, and shows how clueless some fans are with either our own players and/or the league in general.

I don't think it's bad enough yet for anyone to really do much about it. Even reform don't want to go too far because they wont attract a more moderate voter that they need if they want to win anything. Israel Palestine has sped things up a bit. I don't think anyone would get elected who would do what needs doing.

Hate to say this but I’ve read figures of £15-18m.

I feel the same way re their fans, their fall and relegation isn’t really due to football and the team, but the previous dickhead owner. I’d like to think we don’t have to go through the singing “going down, going down” sort of tedium on Saturday but it’s probably an obligatory from the songbook for some of the saps. Can’t say I felt too much for them in the 90’s though, always seemed a bogey team.

They probably would. How old are they now ?

what makes it worse, there are plenty of utterly useful idiots who will will this on, for no other reason than to virtue signal. The country is gone, we are in the slow decline of a great nation that will be split by weird sectarian lines, dominated by downtown shit holes in big cities. Whilst this is happening, those in power do fuck all about it. It is all very strange.

If it wasn't my country and I wasn't emotionally invested I'd find it quite interesting to see how the current people in power act as the rise in sectarian politics becomes impossible to ignore. If democracy gets subverted and some regions start voting for things that are against our way of life what realistically can be done? If it has democratic weight behind it it will be pretty difficult to stop.

Perhaps inevitable there’s interest, especially from Germany. Or his agent hurrying up that improved three year contract.

He doesn’t have to be a jocular wisecracking manager on the interview rounds for supporters to warm to him. After what we’ve seen over recent years it’s a welcome change to have someone who seems enthusiastic and dedicated to the job and club.* *for the time being anyway.

it wont be long before parts of Bradford or Birmingham are openly hostile to certain sections of 'society' (than they already are), and that booze is banned outright and such like. Meanwhile, thousands more pour into the country completely unchecked.

I really want him to do well and make me look like a fool for my adverse comments. However there is no sign of him improving from a level of total incompetence and all for an outlay of around £12m. Him and Downs, what a combined waste of money!!

It's only a matter of time before the sectarian vote coalesces into their own party and that's when it will really be depressing with block voting and campaign ads in a different language. The Greens may have a temporary boost for now by appealing to the but that won't last and naive of them if they think it will. They will go for another Gaza supporting, Jew hating party that doesn't want to legalise all drugs and support drag queen story hour

Great summary. The only other thing that I’d add to all this which has been key - Downes.

Yeah, it does seem to be that way, but those frictions will have to come home to roost at some point. Really not a fan of them tbh, they've got so many polices i think would be disastrous - Legalising class A drugs and the sex trade, and their stance on open borders and nato/defence (i.e., leaving nato and expelling Nato/US forces from british bases - does Polanski work for russia / china?!) Labour need to get their house in order or they're going to get consumed by the far left, and we'll be left with a choice between two ideologically very opposed parties in the greens and reform, with the centerground completely abandoned - i.e., the country will start to become ungovernable. Anyway, maybe you'll be right and Labour see them off.