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Are you a season ticket holder? These games tend to go quite low down on the away game credits before selling out.

Maybe there weren't any other offences. If there were and he had evidence I'm sure they would have been included on the original charge sheet.

Did they mention which international break?

He talks with a lot of common sense and knowledge. Do you think he fancies a job back in football as a CEO of a Championship club? I would certainly have felt a lot more confident about our response to what's happened if someone like him was driving it and putting our case.

Nah, not having this. Regardless of the restrictions, it’s still the game that gets the juices flowing more than any other by a long, long way. Always an extra buzz about the game/town when we play them no matter what. Can’t wait.

Fair enough I’m not sure of the legalities of leaving and rejoining. I suspect Labour may campaign on a referendum being put to the people in the knowledge I suspect that more than 50% will vote to rejoin

Not really. The Tories didn't have to hold the last one, and they didn't have to act on the result of it either, what with it not being legally binding.

Potentially, but if that was the case - why was there no further evidence of other spying offences - i.e., either he wasn't kept in those groups, or we didn't spy outside of the reported offences. It highlights actually the issue with personal whats-app messages and business use - as its likely that he retained historic messages as a minimum. 5min 10sec on wards - Jordan eluding directly to Parson's behavior making the whole thing significantly worse

A voice of common sense amid a wilderness of over reaction and vindictiveness.

I believe Boro's whole approach was managed expertly by a PR expert, the media coverage was controlled by them from the start, certain journalists clearly briefed , the glaring hypocritical articles by Henry Winter leave you in no doubt he had received some form of payment. Crying Kim's propaganda press conference another PR masterstroke rubber stamping the victim narrative Then we had the Boro connections popping up within EFL and Sports Relations. A plot 1960s Soviets would be proud of.

It's subjective. A plane that carried passengers across the Atlantic in a few hours, back then, was revolutionary imo. Some may argue evolutionary. Re space ex, whilst getting into low orbit space, in rockets that can be used again is impressive, I'm not sure that 60 years after man apparently landed in the moon, such an advance is any more revolutionary than concorde was way back then. Each to their own, but I don't sit here wowed by what Musk has done.

Yes but will it still need a referendum even if they are re elected? Assume it would

I think it is also likely that Taylor was still in WhatsApp groups with other Saints analysts

Parsons needs to go asap. Clearly no contingency plan in place if they ban Tonda. His interview was clutching at straws at best.

Simon Jordan continues to talk sense on Spygate on today's talkSPORT slot

I paraphrased, but yes. I don't have the time to watch it back. But it was along the lines of: initial discussions with the efl indicating that it wasn't that serious and that we expulsion wasn't on the table, that we agreed to the accelerated timescale but it was very chaotic / everyone was travelling, so we got it wrong. Middlesbrough used the situation to get a pass to the play off final. Who can blame them, we'd have probably done similar in their shoes (which was a further shocking thing for him to have said). If it has actually been cut from the recording, i would say that is very telling.

Its also utterly irrelevant and trying to portray Saints as the victims. Whatever one thinks of the severity of the punishment, its a simple fact that we broke some explicit rules and owned up to doing so on 3 occasions, including for an upcoming match. Trying to claim we're the ones who got stitched up is laughable.

This is all speculation.

Just the bloke we need to get everyone to pull together.

Really don’t think Boro catching us in the act of something they found out we were doing previously and likely to do against them, that’s against the rules, is the big drama you guys seem to think it is. Seems a perfectly reasonable response.

Why would anyone need to question Boro? They suspected they were about to be spied on, they were right, and they put plans in place to capture evidence of it. Its absolutely barking mad to think they need to answer anything about why they were soi prepared to catch another team attempting to cheat. Crazy.

I agree to a large extent but think it is still worth highlighting that Boro were not whiter than white in this whole affair yet nobody ever questioned them and, as far as I know, they were never asked to account for some of the valid points raised by many Saints fans. I get that they weren't accused of anything but it's hard to work out how they moved so quickly without some form of inside knowledge.

If there was to be a six month plus ban then the Southampton hierarchy will look utterly ridiculous in all their decision making. You can’t function on an interim manager for over half a season when you’re looking to get promoted. It would also make them look more stupid and naive having backed him in the transfer market.

Did Parsons actually say this at the fans forum? I'm not disputing it because I wasn't there but I've just watched it back and didn't hear this comment. Maybe it was edited out at the time or has been since but the version I've just watched on line didn't contain this comment from Parsons.

Not for the next GE, but possibly the one after.