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These things are always bit skewed as yes we’ll owe money but we’ll also be owed money too. We made more than double what we spent on transfers last season, plus this summer will be the same with many of the departing players sold at a nice profit unless somehow they can be convinced to give us one more season, although highly unlikely they will the big concern is the wage bill and this being the final parachute payment. If we don’t go up this season anything that isn’t nailed down will be sold and we’ll be cutting our cloth like most Championship team do.
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The key difference here to other expulsions was that the EFL knew about an allegation BEFORE the two games and decided that the offence was not enough to stop the games being played. They were happy with them being fair contests, right up until the hilarious moment when the clown of a Boro keeper watched a cross float right past him into the corner. Normally a mistake like that would be career-defining, but no, no, not for this fucker, he still had an even funnier moment in his locker, in fact I might watch it again in a mo to cheer me up, laughs always guaranteed. And that wheezy unfit Boro team that went about 15 hours without scoring and had a defence that should be in a circus? Apparently they only lost because a kid nearly watched them.
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Great player...but I still chuckle at him putting his transfer to Man Utd in the hands of God, who subsequently arranged a move to West Ham instead https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/fonte-manchester-united-future-gods-hands
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I think I and the club would be diappointed with 15m for Shea. Jander likewise Jordan James would be good, Fatawa but I expect others higher in the food chain will get him
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Historically, very few Academy lads make it through to be first team regulars. The difference between U21 football, and the Championship (not to mention Prem. level).. is enormous for youngsters to adjust to. Last season was the first real showing of young talents in the last ...10 years? When JWP headed up a group that included; Stephens, McQueen, Targett and Reed, (some of whom were stuck behind Bertrand as first choice). Now we saw Cam Bragg establishing himself and new names like Oyekunle, Williams, Sillah Dibaga also getting minutes. They might not be on the bench quite so often yet, but they've taken the first steps. Our biggest challenge will be getting replacements for those who leave, and a few new names who might come to the club - depending on who the manager is by August.
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Surely that would only emphasis the need to keep the best manager we've had in years and who had us on course for 113points (if our form post switching to a 4-2-3-1 was extrapolated over a season). Also, the clubs finances (and owing £100M in fee installments as a second tier side) is not the fault of the 32year old mananger we appointed halfway through the most recent season. And don't forget, we don't owe all that money this year. We presumably also have other installments coming in from player sales (such as TD and MF last summer). For info, I have made no effort all to fact check this... Incoming fees: The 2025 accounts show a £108M debt on outgoings installments. So Maguire's figure of £99M uses other data. But equally, the MF and TD sales (and others), plus last summer's incoming purchases will all have impacted the numbers. But regardless, I doubt it's as bad as Maguire suggests. Just looking at those numbers: June 25: Outgoing transfer instalments = £108.3M (total) Outgoing transfer instalments = £63.1M (1 year - i.e., now cleared) Incoming transfer instalments = £72.9M (total) Incoming transfer instalments = £44.2M (1 year - i.e., now cleared) Outstanding instalments = -£16.5M (money owed based on historic transfers). Player trading profit last summer = between £60M and £80M. So, re player transfers, we should be in the black when this years accounts get published? Just as important as sorting out transfer liabilities, will be getting wages to a level that is sensible and sustainable for our situation as a parachute team.
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My first response to that would be how much are we owed in unpaid transfer fees? More than enough to take care of the £99m presumably, given we have sold for higher values than we have purchased during transfer windows
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Had huge respect for him when he stepped down a league to join in the Markus/Cortese project. Lost some of that in his final weeks/months as it seemed he wanted to leave when he was needed most. Same as Lallana. However, the drop in quality after he left at CB was marked and it’s very apparent now in hindsight what a fine player he was for us. Would not flinch at him coming back to coach, particularly as a specific defence coach.
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According to this article we currently owe £99m in unpaid transfer fees: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8d82zn563vo So having also missed out on the promotion money, and going into the last year of (reduced) parachute payments, it could be a busy summer trying to balance the books. Thank god we've got a safe pair of hands like Parsons and his crack team at the helm to guide us through it.
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Just got my 2 tickets refunded.
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The word potentially is the main thing
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Four days later - should Saints still sack Tonda?
Midfield_General replied to Cuddles's topic in The Saints
New article on BBC makes for fairly concerning reading regarding the state of the finances and more potentially to come. If you were already £99m in debt (which, according to this, is what we currently owe in unpaid transfer fees), would you keep on the guy who had just potentially cost you £200m? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8d82zn563vo -
Tonda next England manager 50/1
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When was the last time you can remember genuinely expecting England to win the World Cup? My first World Cup I can remember was Mexico 86. Thought we'd win that. Then Italia 90. I thought we'd win that one. The dream died with the penalty shootout defeat to Germany, and I don't think I've thought England could win it ever since.
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My Summer predictions\hopes. Out of contract and leaving on a free Alex Mccarthy (GK) Oriol Romeu (MF) George Long (GK) Jamie Jones (GK) Joe Aribo (MF) Will Smallbone (MF) Charlie Taylor (DF) Out of contract players I hope signing new Deals James Bree (likely) Ross Stewart (not as sure on this but really hope so 🤞) Players That I think are most likely to leave depending on circumstances and estimated fees Shea Charles (£15m) Taylor Harwood Bellis (£25 - £30m) Casper Jander (£15 - £20m) Sam Edozie (£2m - 4m) Aaron Ramsdale (£15m but Maybe forced to stay if there's a keeper shortage) Cameron Archer (£7m) Juan Larios (nominal) Ben Brenton Diaz (£4m) Yuki Sugawara (£5m but Maybe forced to stay if Bree doesn't re-sign) 15% of Matty Fernandes profits from WHU Estimated Total In: £95 > £120m Players I think we will keep hold of but there will be interest Leo Scienza Flynn Downes (cant see us letting all 3 of our MF players go) Finn Azaz Players Likely to leave on season long Loans Gavin Bazunu Damion Downs Incoming Players required and fees Cyle Larin (if Tonda stays in charge) Required signings 1st Choice Keeper 2nd Choice keeper - Club may retain one or two of Jones\Long\McCarthy\Bazunu 3rd Choice keeper - Club may retain one of two of Jones\Long\McCarthy\Bazunu 1st Choice CB to replace THB 1st Choice MF to replace Jander 1st Choice MF to replace Charles - Club may already consider Bragg as ready made replacement 2nd Choice ST to play under Larin\Stewart - Downs maybe given his opportunity as he fits the same mould as Larin\Stewart 2nd Choice winger to replace Edozie - Club may give Jay Robinson a clearer path to the first team Realistic targets Abdul Fatawa - Leicester - if we lose Scienza Gustavo Hamer - if we lose Azaz Jordan James - Rennes - MF replacement Femi Azzez - Millwall - if we lose fellows Peretz - Another Season long loan or purchase
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One of the best centre backs we have had. He stepped down a league to come to us as he could see the potential at the time.
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Four days later - should Saints still sack Tonda?
beatlesaint replied to Cuddles's topic in The Saints
Au contraire Rodney……I mean LD 🤣 -
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I always thought 'radish' was an insult used by Bolsheviks against other Bolshevik party activists as an accusation of them having White sympathies during and around the time of the Russian Civil War. Never seen it used by an Inglés as an insult, but hey, first time for everything!
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I would have him on bench.
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Four days later - should Saints still sack Tonda?
Sheaf Saint replied to Cuddles's topic in The Saints
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Don’t have an obligation to buy as part of the deal. Plenty of other clubs manage it
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The teams he has managed you can't really not win something. With big teama you have transfer mo et avaliable and top players. Its more luck in arriving at a team at the right time. Its all down to the players and England should easily get further than Germany in WC. QF at least for England.
