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Be interesting to see if he has truly learned anything. Purely because he did all that guff with Gary Lineker and then went to Rangers.

Throw them out of the competition! They broke a little known rule with their Malvinas banner. England to play in the final and the 3rd/4th place game scrapped. In addition dock Argentina 4 points for the next world cup. Seems perfectly fair to me. There is precedent.

It was the Gordon for Konsa sub that hit home that Tuchel's head had gone. Just insane. It was like we went down to 10 men. I will also add that Kane is being managed appallingly or is incredibly selfish given how ridiculously deep he drops

Grealish is 9 years younger than Messi.... Bloody frustrating that our 'star' players seem to fade once they hit 30 yet the likes of Messi continue to mature like a fine wine....

Fully understand and agree to a certain level, I think Tuchel compounded the situation and if he’d gone more positive he’d have less criticism. As England play best with high tempo and counter attacks, he should have made more use of the squad, especially with an extra round to consider.

I know Grealish is past his best and injured but it was made for someone like him, give him the ball, keep hold of it, win free kicks, slow the game down and he has that quality in tight spaces to create something, but we NEVER use players like that properly. It's always about speed and strength.

Does he really have a huge impact in terms of goals and assists? I feel he flatters to deceive on occasions, beats two men then doesn't get his head up for the killer pass or loses the ball. Granted he's good to watch, but impact not so sure.

The last 25 minutes needed someone fast - probably Saka - on the pitch and told to stay on the halfway line and chase every clearance. No way would he have been left unmarked so 1 or 2 fewer in attack for our defence to deal with. And any ball he successfully chased you can almost guarantee he'd have been fouled, breaking their momentum and ensuring the ball wasn't coming straight back every time.

Simon Jordan talking absolute sense and looking pissed off at the fact that Jim White was clearly trying to get him to wade in against Tonda.

We have them going forward, Palmer, Foden, Grealish a few years ago were these sort of player that we dont use properly. In this tournament we went for pace and strength as usual instead then didn't use it properly. What we've lack for years is that controlling central midfield player, a player that can dictate the tempo, do the simple things well, keep the ball moving etc. Michael Carrick was the nearest thing we've had to that in recent years and IMO should have been the first name on Englands team sheet in those days. We dont seem to like those sort of players when we have them they get labelled as boring, sideways & backwards type players because they're not spectacular, exciting players who score goals and create chance after chance.

I think we're all looking at his little outbursts like this the wrong way. If I'm Andy Burnham I'm thinking this is an absolute gift and all I need to do is have a little pop back, reassert our stance and act a bit tough. Instant surge in approval ratings. Might put Trump out a bit but the stupid fucker changes his mind so often that it'll make no difference whatsoever anyway.

Not sure why that’s in our transfer chat group when we have a championship one open for news like this?

Not really. Unallocated works fine. Think we had it at Doncaster last season and it's much better imo.

After we scored we should have kept two wingers high up the pitch and Kane at centre forward with Bellingham as the link to give Argentina reason to fear a counter attack. Rice and Anderson protecting plus the back four in place was a better bet than 11 back and booting the ball knowing it's coming straight back at us. With 11 back we didn't even defend sensibly which was demonstrated by the fact that Argentina still had acres of space down both flanks to enable them to put dangerous crosses in. Again we didn't defend those crosses with 5'9" MacAllister winning numerous headers in the centre of goal. All the while Messi was patrolling and pulling the strings. Quite simply England scored then turned into headless chickens and played the remainder of the game exactly how Argentina would have wanted.

Does anyone know if the 'Membership Plus' accounts will have a priority window to buy tickets before standard Memberships? Or will they share the same purchase window? Not a huge amount more value between the two otherwise for me, to justify the extra cost. I may have missed it somewhere, but I did email the club to ask... and obviously no reply.

It's delayed until 1,30 now. Also staggered that the seats are unallocated. That is a recipe for chaos in a sold out game

Scared

Is nic-nack ok?

Fuck's sake. Having a baby on the 8th and will miss this.

Yes its fown says supplier issue

Not true though. Argentina showed signs of stepping up a gear before we scored. In the first half they seemed content to put us off our stride with lots of niggly fouls. They came out in the second half and started to play football. They did the same against Egypt and will probably to the same against Spain. They were written off early on as too old and past it. Clearly they are not. As for us, did anyone really think we would make the semis before a ball was kicked in this competition? What did Lineker say about Tuchel? “60% genius, 40% psychopath.” I think we have seen that over the last few weeks!

In the spirit of one of the worst ideas for a chant ever, can we get this going complete with the motions please.