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Not sure how we go about that eevn if I do agree it was akin to a kangaroo court.

Great post, and imo the answer to your question is yes. It was pointed out further up that from a press pov we are already yesterdays news, so while there will be renewed and unpleasant press interest in the club if Tonda does stay, then it too will likely be short lived. Bottom line tho, is that whatever players we manage to keep for next season will have to be happy to be managed by him in the same way they clearly were in the run up to our getting to the play off final.

There would only be legal action jason Taylor if he signed NDA , but even then its a mine field.

I really don't see that Eckert is the only person to blame though. Someone above him in the hierarchy must have known what we we were doing and with a bit of moral compass should have put a stop to it. Eckert is trying to fall on his sword but the wording of the EFL enquiry says otherwise.

Makes you wonder how we have got to this point from being the shining glory of running a club from 8 years ago? We were the blueprint then of how a smaller club should be run which was copied to a degree by other clubs, Bournemouth and Brighton spring to mind? Look at how those 2 have progressed in the same time. Southampton have gone backwards.

I do think there's a plausible route where we internally rectify the situation through our own investigation, and hand out appropriate punishments to individuals involved to show that systemic cheating is not what we accept at our club, whilst also making sure the EFL don't get away with their kangaroo court proceedings.

If anyone is concerned about that they should keep well away from this forum.

But where do we go from here? To the High Court? I have no issue with being found guilty, but I DO with the process. The process followed stinks of being rushed and arguably unfair. There is a part of me that wants Saints FC to take EFL to High Court for their handling of the case.

I hope the FA takes the decision on whether Eckert stays out of our hands. The supporters are divided and that's understandable. We had a run of dreadful managers, thanks to SR's expertise, so when Eckert arrived and things started to improve, it was like a lifebelt to a drowning man. We started to enjoy watching our team again, we started to look to the future, we started to hope. By rights we should be celebrating a return to the Premier League with £220m in the kitty and a fitting manager. Hasn't turned out quite like that and there is only one person to blame, Eckert. By his own admission he is responsible for the whole, sad and sorry mess. Some will put winning football matches front and centre and will want him to stay but is he really worth all the aggro that will come with that decision?

Currently, the only noise around the club I can locate is no longer the press, but just this forum and (mainly Southampton fans or journalists e.g. Blackmore) on social media.

Sometimes a period of quiet reflection is called for rather than making hasty knee jerk reactions. Also in the case of Spygate I think that it would be best to remember the words of Jesus- "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." Perspective has been lost in a media frenzy (possibly encouraged by certain PR advisers but I have no proof of this )

Very interesting - bombshell statement here. As the losing party, Southampton are entitled to know precisely what was the evidence that led to these damning findings. Yet the section on evidence says merely that the EFL relied on evidence from four witnesses, one of whom gave oral evidence, while Southampton relied on evidence from “several witnesses”, four of whom gave oral evidence. There is no mention of the written evidence, which must have been copious, and there is no attempt to explain how that evidence led to the findings mentioned above. On reading the judgment, Southampton could not know what evidence provided the proof for these findings. It could have a guess, but it is entitled to know, especially when so much was at stake, precisely what oral and written evidence was relied on to reach these conclusions.

I’d personally really appreciate some communication from the owner at this point. I understand they may be waiting for any sanctions or official outcomes, but from the outside it can feel more like buying time than showing leadership. What’s needed now is for the owner to come forward, make it clear that everyone involved is being held accountable, and reassure supporters that strong action is being taken internally. Just as importantly, there needs to be a clear explanation of how the club plans to move forward and rebuild trust with the community, fans, players, and partners. Open communication alone would help calm much of the ongoing noise surrounding the club. Right now, the silence is only increasing pressure and speculation, whereas showing leadership and transparency would allow people to start looking ahead instead of continuing to focus on the uncertainty.

Thought this thread needed a bump as there's no way he could or should be getting another decent level job any time soon. Is there a chance of legal action against this guy? Sounds like a disgruntled ex-employee has caused massive damage to his ex-employer after he was let go for being very poor at his job.

I don’t think my opinion was much different to many on here at the time. 😂 So with that in mind are you going to start commenting on others that said the same thing? And actually I said be confident, nothing rude, but if you want to go down that road you can if you like, but it’s not a productive use of my time. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I’m mostly giving the football a swerve at the mo so only just read this. That’s a very good summary imo. I’ve said before that it feels like we’ve been used as a bit of an experiment whilst they try to reinvent football but constantly fail. I know he’s the chairman and the buck ultimately stops with him but I believe Dragan Solak is mostly guilty of putting too much trust in the laps of chancers, he stepped up and took action after the Will Steel debacle and it finally looked to be working but those chancers have now fucked up all the good stuff. What a shitshow.

Whose fault is it that we’re starting on minus 4?

You are spot on on all three. But the fact that those utterly fundamental basics are things that our incredibly highly-paid Executive Board 'need to learn' says all you need to know about why we are in this situation. These are all things I'd expect any half-decent Business graduate to be able to identify straight of college. The fact that no-one on our Board considered these basic measures until it was way too late and the irreversible damage had been done says everything. Putting aside the actual cheating and focusing on how the fall-out was handled, the people running the club simply don't have the skills, knowledge, experience or expertise to do it competently. Whatever fancy job titles they love to give themselves, they're just not qualified. Dragan, Parsons, Sibley - they literally don't know what they're doing.

Maybe you should read a very interesting article referenced by The Ugly Inside. It can be found on page 3 of the topic How About This!!!!!! It was written by Sir Nicholas Mostyn KC and, whilst he is a Saints fan, he undoubtedly knows more about legal matters than anyone else on this forum. Suffice to say he is far from impressed with the handling/findings of the EFL and Commission who handed down the verdict and punishment nor is he satisfied with the handing and verdict of the appeal. I'd take his view over yours on this.

Wait until the FA ban him, they’ll be all out in force again. Bielsa wasn’t banned, we didn’t gain an advantage, a bloke on the FA meet “Gibbo” once, there’s an agenda against Saints, everyone does it daily and twice on a Thursday, and the DFB wouldn’t have banned him in Germany.

https://www.insideworldfootball.com/2026/05/26/op-ed-sir-nicholas-mostyn-kc-soutampton-fc-admiral-byng-is-shot-again/ Here it is.

And with the poll not going the way they wanted, it looks like that fin has fallen off and they're frantically flapping against the tide.

I just want the club to have the best shot at automatic promotion next year, with our last year of parachute payments and a minus 4 start, that is going to be extremely difficult, especially with Burnley, Wolves and West Ham in a already very competitive league. Yes Tonda was beyond stupid, in what little advantage the spying gained, but Tonda is best placed to achieve this. I don’t care about the abuse that other fans will spew our way, it will eventually fade and be forgotten if we get promoted. The million dollar question is would the players accept this, let’s all hope they do and we can keep this oven ready Premiership team together. A new manager and mass player exodus, well we all know the script don’t we…

Just read a very interesting article referenced by The Ugly Inside. It can be found on page 3 of the topic How About This!!!!!! It was written by Sir Nicholas Mostyn KC and, whilst he is a Saints fan, he undoubtedly knows more about legal matters than anyone else on this forum. Suffice to say he is far from impressed with the handling/findings of the EFL and Commission who handed down the verdict and punishment nor is he satisfied with the handing and verdict of the appeal.