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We were better than them in every department but we shouldn’t be so nervy every time an opposition attacks. It feels weird watching us thinking we’re going to concede when our opponents come forward considering how good we are.

We're not a one man team but he's one of our best players Any news on his injury?

What a load of shit. Stop projecting your disapproval of a player on to his old clubs. He was excellent for Preston last season (40 odd games, 10 goals, 7 assists). Villa are a top 6 Prem team competing in Europe, he's probably not that level. Scored against us in both league matches. Preston would not have been "keen to let him go". On paper he was a decent signing. He's not some reject clubs wanted rid of. And he's barely had a go yet, a few cameos is not the basis to even work out if he's any good. Whatever happens, in his career already he's done better than Sam Edozie.

Their winner was offside. Not excusing the performance at all but competent officiating we would have had a point

It was Villa who had our pants down over that. I think their fans were quite happy to see shot of him too.

Agreed - but that’s EA for you

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Very brave going to this - guaranteed home win with our wobbly defence.

Quite simply - he is not good enough. No wonder Preston were keen to let him go.

We are a one man team so he is number one target each game. Take him out deliberately as Wrexham did and that's it Saints just piss around with ball. I'm surprised Scienza isn't already out for 2 months with injury.

Let’s all be honest. We are so short on quality then there is only going to be one outcome. The big question for me is why do we seem incapable of cutting out crosses ??

1 x Winger 1 x cover/sub for Scienza 1 x goal scorer. Established only. 2 x defenders 1 x midfield cover/sub

We are very slow as a unit. If you look at the table as a netruel for easy weak non aggressive teams then Saints stand out, none of the others. I think its tge style we play, someone runs with ball but only Larin ahead, so stop 15 passes lose ball, start again maybe pass to winger same again or no one up front, lose ball. We don't need to be fit as we dont press high in case get caught out so sut back and do stupid passes on halfway line and get done. We are tge most disjointed team there's not match up in defensive, midfield or anywhere . We would be better getting faster, stronger players next season and ditch possession walking football which creeps back each week. If we keep with walking possession and Tondo can only play one way the 8th and we won't beat many teams just a load of draws making up the points. We take far too long to see a through ball and cant just blast a shot on edge box. Azaz what is his role, Fellows why is he running around with no purpose where is the link up play? Why are tge back players trying Brazilian to me to you passing wasting time? Larin up front with 2 defenders and no outlet. Its all disjointed and waiting for a gap that rarely appears. We got 3 players that can compete and challenge and nothing on bench. Teams only need 3 chances all game to get 1 or 2 goals vs our 80% possession. We start with 10 as one constantly passes to opposition, the 2 subs dont affect game so ready still 2 players down 9 v 11. Last rage is the constant passing on edge of box, just shoot. How does Azaz score v City at Wembley then just give ball away or fall over ball as he did today.

Andros Townsend's career hasn't derailed...its been steamrolled. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1796580698350548

As others have said, we got little protection from the Ref when it mattered today. Edozie offers little to nothing…just useless. Manning had his usual rubbish game - both defensively with poor closing down and also going forwards not delivering balls into their pen area without hitting the first man. Our CB’s have at least one terrible error waiting to happen. Worst of all though - we don’t look fit across the team…stamina at a real low. Wrexham looked like thoroughbreds while we looked like NF ponies by comparison. We are looking like a decent mid-table team right now, that might get a shot at a play-off place if lucky.

They are a strange lot.

I watched only the second half today; it was horrific. What is worse is that it was most definitely not a one-off. Earlier games this season, all of the aways and some of the homes, too, have exhibited the same problems: 1. An inability to close down opposition attackers, especially those out wide and looking to cross into our penalty area. But also an inability to deal with those crosses once they arrive. And an inability to pick-up opposition players centrally in or around the D of our penalty area. 2. A lack of cohesive defensive shape when we do not have the ball. The complete contrast between us and our opponents is striking. We often struggle to break through them; they break through us easily. Even when we win. 3. Too slow getting the ball forward when we are not able to counter-attack an inferior team. It is reminiscent of Russball but worse because we know how exciting this team can be under our present manager. It has got to stop and soon because it hands the initiative to the other side. The problem is worse when we are faced with either an effective aggressive press or no press at all. Fannying around with the ball in our half is completely pointless if it does not draw the opponent out of shape. We know from bitter experience that goals, not possession, win games. 4. No urgency, an apparent lack of fitness, an apparent lack of desire and fight and a lack of physicality. Far too often do we get bullied off the ball and beaten to a knock-down or loose ball. As someone said earlier today, it’s a man’s game and too often we are second-best at it. 5 A gaping hole where Jander or Charles used to be or if Larin, Azaz or Scienza are off-form or off the pitch; the subs are not of the required standard. JWP and Downs have impressed so far but should impose themselves more and drive the team forward more, not merely break up the play. As I have said, this is not just a knee-jerk to today’s loss. Our coaching staff need to get their act together. When we get it right we look really impressive but too often we are ineffective and incredibly boring to watch. Today’s second half saw us playing horrible football, not something I want to see again. We have three weeks to put it right. I really hope we do. I have not written anything like this since our Championship season under Martin. Eventually we secured promotion that time. I am becoming less confident as the weeks go by that we shall do the same this season. Let’s hope that I am wrong.

Absolutely

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Exactly. Edozie has had many opportunities but inceasingly doesn't deliver. It is hard for Dobbin to fit in. He needs to come on when Larin's still there coz I can't see Mubama holding up the ball and laying if off to Dobbers.

Still annoys me after all these years of featuring St Mary’s that they’ve got our dugouts the wrong way round. Plus they haven’t bothered to move the away fans for the last two games.

Weirdly this could come under the “annoyed” thread too, but when the new FIFA (FC) game comes out. The refresh and the hype is always good to watch and then a week into playing it you realise how bugged it is.

Who's upset?

It should 100% be highlighted in press conferences going forward. Depends who’s taking them 🤪

Edozie shouldn’t be near the squad. Dobbin every time for