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If he did, that would be pretty easy to prove you'd think and I think the case would almsot certinly be thrown out. I did find Tonda's comment "Its hard for me not to talk, I want to and will do at some point" interesting... I suspect its along the lines of this is normal practice in italy, germany etc. but will be interesting to hear what he has to say once all is done.

which Boro may well have as part of their case.

I happen to know that Tonda and Spors were still down here Thursday lunchtime.

Obviously but that's a given.

Thanks for the avoidance of doubt, I wasn’t suggesting ignorance would be a defence - just interested in whether it might be reality.

So the defence is “I’m thick sorry”? As that wouldn’t be so bad for our reputation? Seriously hope we have more than that.

I’d be fascinated to know if I’m actually going to Wembley this Saturday. I think Hull would too.

Its actually a lovely hotel, very posh. Some friends of ours who love to boast about how much they spend on things go there every few months to use the spa. Saints also used to stay at Forest Pines when we played Hull away there is a framed, signed Saints shirt in the entrance to the golf club so the sort of place we would stay at.

Yep but it would need to be documented - emails, voicemails, text messages etc.

All we’ve got to do is pin it all on Tonda. We take a European human rights lawyer into the meeting, explain as an immigrant Tonda didn’t understand this was not allowed, he’s foreign and as you can see from his long pauses before answering a question in interviews, struggles with our language and spying was invented in Germany and is encouraged over there. Also he hates our mac chicken nuggets, theirs are far superior, as are the kebabs, so his human rights are being violated. Christ, we will probably get points added and Tonda will be knighted and offered the England manager job, so relax everyone.

Does Saints know the outcome? Looks a faily confidant post. Boro will be complaining...

Yep, totally agree.... but from a reputational perspective, doing something wrong out of ignorance won't be viewed as heiniously as willfully doing something wrong.... it's the difference between the press being able to lable Tonda a "cheat" versus "a bit of a naive nicompoop"... reputation matters....

I'm fascinated to know if he had any contact with the ex boro and saints analyst. Would be really interesting if he had.

He works for Saints.

If the rumours that he left the club in March are wrong, then there are several possible reasons that he went up a day before the rest of the club: He was spying at the behest of the club! He went up in advance to make arrangements for Saints stay in County Durham and while up North visited Rockliffe. If rumours that he now works for Aston Villa are true, it is still a long way up North, but maybe he has friends in the area... or maybe he was planning to watch the game and went up a couple of days earlier... or maybe he was spying for Aston Villa (which may explain why he was near the academy pitches rather than the first team pitches).

If they didn’t they absolutely must next time we play Karen FC.

What about washing your willy really fast in the window?

Well to be fair, the coroner had already ruled that it was an accident.

Drove past a month ago before this all blew up, I was surprised to see it but it seems there are several facilities like this in the Championship, Bristol City and Pompey as a couple of instances, no doubt Wrexham too as Boro were keen to insinuate potential spying there too. Funnily enough they are constructing a new training ground in Kent, unsurprisingly one of the reasons being a desire for improved privacy! Karen FC take note. https://southwarknews.co.uk/sport/football/millwall/millwall-reveal-more-details-on-new-training-ground-plans/ I assume this 72-hour rule doesn't exist in the PL because the training facilities at that level are impregnable, there's probably a reason why Fulham and Arsenal didn't bother to jump on the bandwagon that we "must" have been cheating during our unbeaten run.

Thing was he represented himself 😉

I did advise you to go with the diminished responsibility defence.

Rockliffe Hall Golf Club?

You need a better lawyer.

This was not my experience at the magistrates court.