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Carrick with an excellent start at Man U 2 goals , 3 chalked off for off side and about 6 saves by City keeper ! I don't think there was any chance he would have come to Saints with 4 4 2 !!!!

The current fashion of appointing a head coach rather than a manager is the cause of such malaise. On the whole they are not man managers, leaving the players rudderless. They also have little or no control over signings. Add to that the fact we have no real leadership on the pitch and you have much of the real reasons we are in our current situation.

I wasn't looking forward to the game before yesterday and to be honest if it wasn't for the fact it was the last chance to see my eldest son before he returned to Venezuela tomorrow i would not have bought tickets for the game. By half time i just wanted to leave and would have done had it not been for my son. I'm just so angry by the complete lack of effort by the players, their spineless performances every week, not one of them a leader on the pitch, barely any of them willing to take their player on (Fellows and Leo aside). Tonda with his pathetic tactics, his clueless subs, wtf was he doing taking Fellows off yesterday. We are sleep walking towards relegation mark my words because we have absolutely no fight in us, we were a beaten side the moment the first goal went in. I have never seen a team react so negatively to conceding a goal, where were the leaders in the team geeing up players??? Only the new goalkeeper tried to rally the players, it was utterly pathetic.

We’ll lose, Ings will probably score and attendances will continue to dwindle.

I said to my son yesterday at half time that we were in a relegation battle. I can't remember the last time i just wanted to walk out of the ground at half time. There was nothing to be positive about. It was an utterly disgraceful performance by the most gutless bunch of Saints players i have ever had the misfortune to watch in over 50 years of watching Saints. I'm sorry i keep banging on about it but i keep saying "we have no leaders on the pitch, absolutely no one." When we conceded the first goal the entire team were heads down apart from the goalkeeper who came running out of his box trying to get the players to fight. WTF was that all about, our newest player the only one trying to raise the other players. We are absolutely gutless, no leaders on the pitch and devoid of any idea how to break teams down. The jeering from the stands every time they played this sideways, sideways backwards football was as bad as i've seen it. Anyone that doesn't think we are in a relegation fight is deluded!

Only just watched the extended highlights. 3 main takeaways for me were: 1. Manning is shit 2. How the fk have we not scored some of those chances 3. Jo Tessem saying when Stewart scores "Finally, someone gets in front of or behind a defender!"

I think they are just shit at the data analysis part. Rasmus metrics are fools gold whereas at Brentford and Brighton they know what the data is worth and how it supports the football club.

We have tried different managers but the players keep serving up these poor performances season after season. Time for a complete rethink on playing personnel which may mean going down again to come back stronger in a few seasons.

It’s got to the stage of which three sides can save us from relegation as it seems the players can’t go out and not make fundamental mistakes which leads to losing the game.

Seems to me that, in addition to appointing the wrong manager time after time, SR have destroyed the supporting fabric of the club. Look at our first team coaches. Novices and nobodies. Centralising the recruitment / scouting is also idiotic. We should not be shopping in the same bordello as Goztepe, Valenciennes and African Dreams Special Bus or whoever the fuck else is in the group so it makes absolutely no sense to share those functions. We are so far from an elite sporting outfit, it's depressing. JUST GET THE FUCKING BASICS RIGHT

My team as well. Maybe swap Armstrong and Scienza starting positions, and you could argue over the CB pair, but that's got to be the way forwards (please stay fit, Stewart...!!!!).

Honestly, as ridiculous as it sounds, I think Putin is more trustworthy these days. They're clearly both massive, massive bell ends but at least Putin has an ounce of intelligence so understands the repercussions of what he does.

He means well, always gets booked, did that weird West Ham X factor cross arm bollox when we went up and never plays a pass forward. Apart from that…

Watching the game today I was screaming at the TV. Watching Downes receive the ball and automatically pass it backwards wihtout looking forwards drove me absolutely nuts and consistently killed off any breaks forward. I hope he doesn't play for Saints again this season (or ever) and I'd lay money the likes of him and Manning (based on more reason than they were Martin buddies) are part of the issues behind the scenes. We need an absolute clear out at the end of this season. How on earth have we ended up with so much dross and so many mentally weak players?

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Not sure I can do another season watching manning being an utter fanny

He will only be sacked after our relegation is confirmed.

Yes, we wrote off the back end of last season. This season is our great season with 6 additional months to prepare for due to being relegated so early, so we can smash the league.

If that dismal result doesn't get SR bringing in a hard CB and a tall hard CF in an emergency then nothing will and the club is a basket case

Didn't we do that last season?

Alright Will, you useless ginger twat. Haven’t you got better things to do than post on here

Laughing

Sadly that’s a great post. Who will we beat playing like we did today? Or against Boro/Oxford/Millwall? Next 2 games are huge. Skate is massive anyway, but if we get beaten by Sheffield at home as well then we’re in big trouble.

Sadly if we do get a result on Wednesday, this pathetic group will think it’s mission accomplished for now, which means we’ll get absolutely pumped at the fish shed.

I agree that Tonda is not good enough. But just compare the side Martin had to manage. Bednarek, KWP, Stuart Armstrong, a fit and motivated Aribo and Adams. We totally lack that experience and nous.