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When we visited Charleston (in October) it was almost unbearably hot. One local told us that in summer it gets so stifingly hot that "you can’t breathe". Ridiculous place to hold a football competition.

It was quite a bit more than just 'placing his leg in front'. Spencer was running alongside and then hooks his right leg across the defender at an awkward angle. Then he tucks his left leg up in an attempt to pretend that he had been brought down. In no way was he tripped and he was fortunate to escape a yellow card. It was embarrassingly bad by Spence but he nearly got away with it, which is bad.

Tbf to Saka he missed Arsenal’s run in and only now looks properly fit, made a positive difference as a sub last night. Hopefully he’s ready to start v Argentina. Rice has been decent until last night when he clearly hadn’t got a gastro bug fully out of his system. Madueke is terrible and agree on Tuchel’s subs. Spence was another difference-maker last night. Burn has been exactly what’s been needed in last 15 minute when crosses and corners fired in by teams chasing.

I was in the crowd at Wembley when England played Argentina in May, 1974. That was about as hostile a crowd I've seen at Wembley for a friendly. Throughout the match the crowd chanted, "Animals". I think we were still chanting it when we left. Channon and Worthington put England 2-0 ahead, but then the great Mario Kempes scored 2, the 2nd being a 90th minute penalty, which didn't go down too well with the crowd. That was the core of the Argentina team that went on to win the World Cup in 1978, when Kempes was the top scorer in the competition. Incidentally, the England team that night had 5 players who either had or would have Saints connections: Shilton, Watson, Keegan, Channon & Worthington.

Still think England have been a bit lucky so far, now watch that all run out against Argentina. Fully expect the players and officials to fall for the usual underhand shite these perennial tards are masters at.

Rice had been off all competition? What utter pony. He has been excellent apart from last night when he clearly should not have been on the pitch as he has been ill.

Yes. You can't initiate a foul, or "brake test" players. It was a bloody tight call thou, and fortunately it doesn't matter.

What would be good is spacing the seats out so you could sit next to 2 fat bastards .

The commentators fail to mention in detail the affect of the climate change excess heat on the players . Temperature is part of the equation but humidity plays a big part . They were playing in 33 C heat but the humidity made it 45 C I have experienced it in USA and it is totally disabilitating , you could see the England players pulling their shirts off their body to try and get some relief but nothing happens due to humidity.

An example of demonised Rattin by the UK press , as media was known then , showing the media haven't changed , a thing for a few clicks these days

He’s right though, seen quite a few pens not awarded this season for similar things where the attacking player has gone looking for a foul like that. First instance it looked a stone wall penalty but on it was the right decision. I see a few Norwegians including Alf Inge Haaland saying the ref cost them the game but I don’t see what he got wrong. The penalty got overturned, the push in the box for the disallowed goal was a push and some refs would have given a foul on Kane for their first goal, it was soft but seen them given. They were the better team, we did get lucky but it weren’t due to the ref

Yeah, the top 2 in the FIFA rankings, nobody would predict that, must have inside knowledge. I reckon the Premier league was fixed last season as well, loads predicted Arsenal & Man C would finish as the top 2, low and behold, that’s what happened…

WTF has that got to do with The World Cup. 🤡🤡

We’ve defo got the easiest draw, Spain & France look the best sides in the competition imo, Argentina aren’t at that level. Probably sacrilege, but 39 year old Messi doesn’t get in that French team, I’m not even sure he’d get in ours if Saka was reproducing his Arsenal form. They’re going to run out of road eventually, they’ve had a pretty easy knock out draw, and have made a right meal of getting through. TT’s substitutions have been superb the last 2 games. Djed Spence who loads didn’t want to see in an English shirt again, has been excellent off the bench, and Dan Burn the ultimate cult hero. Rice a concern as he has been off pretty much all competition & the right wide position defo a problem, we need Saka to stand up and be counted as Gordon has the other side.

Depending on how you run e.g. if you're planting your foot to the side slightly to change your angle of motion so it's more lateral then you have to. Equally if you want to shoulder-charge/block someone when they do the same you have to. There are many occasions when your legs don't just go from front to back and if you're slightly ahead of someone and then cut across them (Leo does this a lot) then effectively you're doing what you've just said you can't do. While it might be shit for the defender, as far as I'm concerned that is good and proper forward play so could you be more explicit unless you mean someone has just decided to throw their leg out sideways as though they intend to just trip the other player up. If you mean that, then patently you've fouled them. Have to ask, can't remember last night's incident. Doesn't matter anyway, we'll end up 4th to Spain after the France v Argentina final has been arranged (as many said it would be before the tournament started). The only real thing I've noted about the French is that they shoot early which seems to be a good tactic.

Unfortunately Rattin was demonised by our great British press , I think unconscious bias was applied by Ref etc . Not saying Argies weren't dirty bastards but that was normal in those days , Leeds for example 😄 The Great British media , Sky news , were commenting on Anne Widdicombe being a virgin ffs , of course Farage is milking for all it's worth etc

FFS.... Memories of Boro everywhere

This is the FAB in action, real positive improvement that the doubting Thomas’s will never give them credit for. I am hearing that they have already set up a toilet roll task force. Bravo to the FAB!

“He represented Argentina from 1959 to 1969 and it was his sending-off in a 1-0 quarter-final loss to England that many outside his country would remember him for. He refused to leave the pitch after being dismissed, saying he did not understand German referee Rudolf Kreitlein, who did not speak Spanish. On his way off, Rattin crumpled an England corner flag and sat on a red carpet reserved for Queen Elizabeth II in protest against the decision. "When I got to the corner, I twisted the English flag and insulted them. Then I went over to the carpet the Queen used to enter the stadium and sat there for about five minutes. It was a very nice red carpet," Rattin said years later.” Im sure any silence attempt will be met with a suitable response from the England fans.

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Ok, agree to disagree. All I saw was Spence move his leg to get it in front of Bobb who then collided with it so clear foul. Is there a rule that states one player can't place his leg in front of another? I get that Spence probably played for it but what in the rules says he is not allowed to do that?

You can't just stick your leg out sideways across an opposition player. If anything it is a free kick to them.

Collecting his summer wages in cash?

Poor performance but got the job done. I couldn't understand the formation in the second half, the players changed so many times with each substitution. If Tuchel just admitted that the Eze sub was wrong and took him off then things would have been much more straightforward imo. That controversy about the overhead camera cable is a joke, the snicko thing shows no contact but the conspiracy theorists are out in force 🤣