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Was all a bit odd because I don't even think Millwall consider West Ham rivals. And I would say, while I didn't do a Turkish and go in all guns blazing and instead took my scarf off, I went in to the Den chippy right outside their main entrance and had one of the best pre-match meals I've had for a long time.

Yes I was/am one of the "some" and I still feel that way, but of course LOVE ❤️ to be proven wrong.

He was lucky to get wins in his first two games. Then presided over our two best games of the season. Now he's presided over just about our worst performance. Any other teams watching yesterday will have noted that if they press and deny us an out ball to midfield that we offer no threat and will keep giving them the ball back.

With that level of application he shouldn't even be training with the first team squad. Let alone in it.

That was every bit as bad as we've been under Still, Juric, Rusk or Martin. No out ball from defence. Slow predictable sideways passing. Every cross looked threatening. Players not closed down. Lost first, second and third balls. Subs made us worse and players not seemingly bothered. We were lucky to score any. They were unlucky to score three.

Spot on and one of the reasons I would prefer a manager with experience, both as a manager and a player.

Ah right I lose track of these, that's s shame

Yeah, he’s fucking terrible, always was, always will be. Huge error not employing a proper keeper after Ramsdale left.

Saints win by two goals. We will bounce back.

For the first goal, and we've seen it before, he's not giving himself the best chance to get anything on the ball, despite having a decent dive at it. It must be his starting position is off, his footwork, assessment of angles and/or his timing. Yes exceptional saves are required when you are starting from the wrong position, recovery or reactional saves if you like. But these become more routine saves if you're in a better position before the shot comes in. That's a keeper making his job look easy, not flailing around because he's out of sync with the action.

Knife

Agree with the first two, but unless something has changed, Charles may be out until the new year according to the reports when he got injured. We'll see. Downes has a few knockers this season but he's still a good option for us and we can all see how much difference Scienza makes to us. Another Scienza-type signing in January would be nice.

Second one was unstoppable today but the first and third he should have done better for.

Ii would argue (and often have) that he is about average for this level. I've seen a lot worse this evening in the Premier League and to be honest none of the goalkeepers that we have faced of late has been better.

There's no need for that type of language.

I've no problem with people criticising the government, I've slagged off the last few - but if you've been silent or cheerleading for 14 years, don't bother to start now.

I'm still not convinced he's ready for it yet, and I am not sure I see the rush to give it to him full time - he isn't going anywhere. I also cannot shake the fact that we've got issues in the dressing room (re effort / player power / attitude), and that specifically some of those players have been some of the most vocal at bigging him up.

Stanley

he'd even miss the sarcasm ..............................

A few steps backwards to something like the QPR performance if you ask me. I'm not sure that Eckert's the man for the job right now but he'll probably get the nod and we'll end up wallowing in mid table.

I would have said Aribo was more 'lightweight' than Matsuki........I cringed when I saw Aribo was coming on. He's slow, negative and offers nothing.

I think Tonga will be given until the end of the season, either tomorrow or Monday. IF it does not work out, we have next season to make sure we get it right. We are still in with a shot at the top 2-6 if we put another run together between now and Christmas, but there are a big group of clubs that will be thinking the same.

What Tonda has done is drag us back into mid table and in the mix for top 6 minimum. Those four wins hopefully has made this a (more) tempting role for an experienced manager.

I hope he doesn’t play for the club again. Very simple.