scott_saints Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 (edited) ** Please be aware that this demonstration is not being approved or promoted by SaintsWeb Ltd in any way and this thread is only being made a sticky by popular demand. We would like to remind people that the contents of the forum do not necessarily represent the views of SaintsWeb Ltd or their directors and administrative team ** If people are wishing to take part in the demonstration at the Swansea game, then people will be meeting at: 1:15pm at Bargate Castle. Rough route- DOWN PAST HANOVER BUILDINGS, DIAGONAL THROUGH HOGLANDS PARK, NORTHBOUND KINGS WAY, RIGHT INTO OLD NORTHAM ROAD, PAST THE KING ALFRED, OVER IRON BRIDGE AND THEN DOWN BRITANNIA ROAD TO FINISH AT ITCHEN STAND! WE WILL HAVE 2 POLICE MOTOCYCLES WITH US ON THE MARCH PLUS ABOUT 6 OR 8 ON FOOT. Connor, the organiser of the protest can't seem to access the site (he hasn't been blocked!!) so any further questions regarding the demonstration, email: connor_bowers@hotmail.co.uk Edited 29 January, 2009 by scott_saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'm sorry but we're not able to make any posts stickies on this issue (whatever our personal feelings!). As an independant forum we need to maintain an unbiased view on political issues within the club as I'm sure you all appreciate. If you wish to ensure this subject has maximum visibility you'll have to keep bumping it I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'm sorry but we're not able to make any posts stickies on this issue (whatever our personal feelings!). As an independant forum we need to maintain an unbiased view on political issues within the club as I'm sure you all appreciate. If you wish to ensure this subject has maximum visibility you'll have to keep bumping it I'm afraid. Oh c'mon. It's merely informing people that "if they want to" (and you can even include that in the thread to be politically correct!) then the information is there. If a shop allows adverts in their window it doesn't mean they are "associated" with what's there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'm sorry but we're not able to make any posts stickies on this issue (whatever our personal feelings!). As an independant forum we need to maintain an unbiased view on political issues within the club as I'm sure you all appreciate. If you wish to ensure this subject has maximum visibility you'll have to keep bumping it I'm afraid. :smt108 Ridiculous. No-one is committing libel, and no-one is planning anything illegal. I dont understand this. This is about saving the club, FFS. I thought this site was run by Saints fans for Saints fans...... Scotty, I cant be there, but happy to help keep bumping it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'll be there with 3 others. Lowe & Wilde out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 :smt108 Ridiculous. No-one is committing libel, and no-one is planning anything illegal. I dont understand this. This is about saving the club, FFS. I thought this site was run by Saints fans for Saints fans...... Scotty, I cant be there, but happy to help keep bumping it for you. No Alpine. It's not even slightly ridiculous. We have to remain unbiased otherwise we get the usual cyber-warriors claiming we have a Pro/Anti* Lowe agenda. Surely you're intelligent enough to appreciate that. It's not really rocket science. Oh and by the way, I'm surprised you can't make it seeing as you feel so strongly about it. * Delete as appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fos1 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I really think the time has come that The Trust and this Forum do something to save our club, I can understand that you say you have to be independant, but we are running out of time without the club we would not need this forum. I am afraid chaps it is really time for action before we no longer have a club, Trust or Forum ! It is back to the Branfoot days, but that was to get rid of a manager, this is far more important then that, this is to save our CLUB, GET OFF THE FENCE AND START ACTION before its too late ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I really think the time has come that The Trust and this Forum do something to save our club, I can understand that you say you have to be independant, but we are running out of time without the club we would not need this forum. I am afraid chaps it is really time for action before we no longer have a club, Trust or Forum ! It is back to the Branfoot days, but that was to get rid of a manager, this is far more important then that, this is to save our CLUB, GET OFF THE FENCE AND START ACTION before its too late ! B*ll*cks. A forum is somewhere for people to debate their opinions etc. It is not a supporters club or fans group. Even worse, a lot of people now pay to post, and I did not pay money for "the forum" to start waving it's name around as a supporters club and claiming it represents me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'm sorry but we're not able to make any posts stickies on this issue (whatever our personal feelings!). As an independant forum we need to maintain an unbiased view on political issues within the club as I'm sure you all appreciate. If you wish to ensure this subject has maximum visibility you'll have to keep bumping it I'm afraid. No Alpine. It's not even slightly ridiculous. We have to remain unbiased otherwise we get the usual cyber-warriors claiming we have a Pro/Anti* Lowe agenda. Surely you're intelligent enough to appreciate that. It's not really rocket science. Oh and by the way, I'm surprised you can't make it seeing as you feel so strongly about it. * Delete as appropriate What a load of boIIocks!!! This is a Saints fans forum, for Saints fans. I would expect the forum to represent the majority of opinion of Saints fans, and what they think is the best way forward for the club. Oh, are you suggesting 'A Letter to Wilde' is not political, because it sure as hell is a sticky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 B*ll*cks. A forum is somewhere for people to debate their opinions etc. It is not a supporters club or fans group. Even worse, a lot of people now pay to post, and I did not pay money for "the forum" to start waving it's name around as a supporters club and claiming it represents me. I think that probably sums it up really. This is supposed to be an unbiased place for people to discuss the club, as Bungle says. The admin's all have their own *strong* personal feelings on what is happening to the club but we cannot be seen to use the forums name as a tool to vent these opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I think that probably sums it up really. This is supposed to be an unbiased place for people to discuss the club, as Bungle says. The admin's all have their own *strong* personal feelings on what is happening to the club but we cannot be seen to use the forums name as a tool to vent these opinions. Except it seems if it is against RL, as otherwise it would be a 'sticky'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 To get this thread back on track.... I'll be at the march/protests as will my mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'm sorry but we're not able to make any posts stickies on this issue (whatever our personal feelings!). As an independant forum we need to maintain an unbiased view on political issues within the club as I'm sure you all appreciate. If you wish to ensure this subject has maximum visibility you'll have to keep bumping it I'm afraid. time to be independant has gone ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 What a load of boIIocks!!! This is a Saints fans forum, for Saints fans. I would expect the forum to represent the majority of opinion of Saints fans, and what they think is the best way forward for the club. Oh, are you suggesting 'A Letter to Wilde' is not political, because it sure as hell is a sticky The letter to Wilde was put up after a lot of pressure from other posters and with a disclaimer attached. We really weren't sure whether to put it up but we voted and up it went. The thing is you almost seem to be claiming that we don't care about what is happening to the club but if you personally know any of the admin team on this forum, you'll know you couldn't be further from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 The letter to Wilde was put up after a lot of pressure from other posters and with a disclaimer attached. We really weren't sure whether to put it up but we voted and up it went. The thing is you almost seem to be claiming that we don't care about what is happening to the club but if you personally know any of the admin team on this forum, you'll know you couldn't be further from the truth. Then let the forum represent the majority of fans, and not be concerned whether or not it might be slightly controversial..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 To get this thread back on track.... I'll be at the march/protests as will my mates. I will see you there mate. Well, hopefully not as they'll be too many people there to find you! (we can hope!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Then let the forum represent the majority of fans, and not be concerned whether or not it might be slightly controversial..... 'Controversy' has single-handedly killed previous incarnations of this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 is this protest "THE" protest...is it/has it been in the echo or anything..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 is this protest "THE" protest...is it/has it been in the echo or anything..? Says on the facebook group south today with run it if it gets police clearance, and there was a bit about the group on page 69 of yesterdays echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 is this protest "THE" protest...is it/has it been in the echo or anything..? It's not official but probably has the most coverage. There are getting on for 1300 members on Facebook now but obviously people who are not on FB need to be made aware. Local news may run with it if the Police clear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 would be worth putting thelink to the facebook site here...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=682460313&ref=profile#/group.php?gid=56298189531&ref=mf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fos1 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 B*ll*cks. A forum is somewhere for people to debate their opinions etc. It is not a supporters club or fans group. Even worse, a lot of people now pay to post, and I did not pay money for "the forum" to start waving it's name around as a supporters club and claiming it represents me. bungle, unless action is taken you will have wasted your £5 as we will not need this Forum as we will not have a club, I wish you knew how close we are to going out of business !! The Forum does not have to say it represents you or is a supporters club, but as a fans Forum could post information, then its up too you to attend or not. we have to save our club bungle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 so..who are the posters on here who have created that...fair play to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 'Controversy' has single-handedly killed previous incarnations of this site. Some would say that's a price 'we' should be willing to pay for democracy rather than something bordering on totalitarianism. I personally wouldn't suggest that of course, but some might... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 The Forum does not have to say it represents you or is a supporters club, but as a fans Forum could post information, then its up too you to attend or not. we have to save our club bungle Exactly my point. Here, I'll even do a message that they could add to a thread regarding the demonstration..... "The Saints Web Forum in no way, promotes the demonstration or associates itself with the running of the demonstration. The information is merely for those who wish to turn up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=682460313&ref=profile#/group.php?gid=56298189531&ref=mf Too many people in the Portsmouth network on there for my liking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'll probably be there and also my son I suspect, who might well get several of his Saints supporting friends along too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 bungle, unless action is taken you will have wasted your £5 as we will not need this Forum as we will not have a club, I wish you knew how close we are to going out of business !! The Forum does not have to say it represents you or is a supporters club, but as a fans Forum could post information, then its up too you to attend or not. we have to save our club bungle I am more than happy not to bother with protesting. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I am more than happy not to bother with protesting. Cheers. That is your choice Bungle. You can make your feelings known about Saints plight in your own way. My choice, and it seems that over 1300 have already declared, is to publicly demonstrate against the current regime. I know that 'alternatives?' will be the next post on here, but frankly, that isn't the most important issue right now. Lowe (AND WILDE!!!) had the opportunity to do something about this situation and chose to keep Poortvliet. They have to deal with the consequences of that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I'll be there with 3 friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Too many people in the Portsmouth network on there for my liking.... There isn't a Southampton network, despite requests for one that go back several years. People in this area automatically get dumped in the Portsmouth network. You can remove yourself from it, if you can be bothered. I did. If I can get the nipper to come, we'll be at the protest, but... using terms like "democracy" and "majority" doesn't actually wash in an argument that also invokes morality. Majorities are not always right, morally or even logically. Nuf said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 There isn't a Southampton network, despite requests for one that go back several years. People in this area automatically get dumped in the Portsmouth network. You can remove yourself from it, if you can be bothered. I did. Aye (sorry, was being somewhat rhetorical in my post about it....just for once..!). I'm signed up to the Federated States of Micronesia network. aka "anything but Portsmouth" network... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 If my boat fishing trip is cancelled due to weather etc, I'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittdogg Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 il be there and il bring a few mates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 That is your choice Bungle. You can make your feelings known about Saints plight in your own way. My choice, and it seems that over 1300 have already declared, is to publicly demonstrate against the current regime. I know that 'alternatives?' will be the next post on here, but frankly, that isn't the most important issue right now. Lowe (AND WILDE!!!) had the opportunity to do something about this situation and chose to keep Poortvliet. They have to deal with the consequences of that decision. It is important though isn't it? The alternative has to be better than what we have at the moment otherwise it would be a bit pointless replcing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_neilo Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Count me in ill be coming with saints_is_the_south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 If people are wishing to take part in the demonstration at the Swansea game, then people will be meeting at: 1:15pm at Bargate Castle. (Sticky please mods? It's handy to have "official" confirmation on here for those who don't have facebook/haven't joined the group) You're going to made to look very stupid.You will get (I'm being generous ) a couple of hundred max.Most of them if the "demo" outside St marys last time is anything to go by will be pikeys hoping to get on television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 (edited) aye (sorry, was being somewhat rhetorical in my post about it....just for once..!). I'm signed up to the federated states of micronesia network. Aka "anything but portsmouth" network... ha ha ha - would be a string of grins but flipping smiley things won't work! Edited 22 January, 2009 by SoccerMom non-functional smiley things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusaldo Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 i'll be there and have informed all my mates so, should be a few of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 got this merssage on facebook: Subject: time and place bargate castle 1:15pm ok with you lot? get back to me if you are serious about coming, then il have rough idear of numbers. still waiting to hear back from police about the situationf of it going ahead. but it all looks good atm. one of the other admins has contacted south today and they ae willing to cover it if given the green light by police. il keep you all posted! so get back to me if you no you are coming May show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Having had a discussion with the admin team we will put this up as a sticky as there seems to be a lot of people that would prefer we did. In the interests of forum democracy I will make it a sticky. Please be aware though that this demonstration is not being approved or promoted by SaintsWeb Ltd in any way and is only being made a sticky by popular demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 'Controversy' has single-handedly killed previous incarnations of this site. To be fair, controversy didn't 'kill' previous versions of this site, the site owners / admin got into bed with various people at the club, thus 'taking sides'... Besides, didn't the forum 'evolve' each time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 To be fair, controversy didn't 'kill' previous versions of this site, the site owners / admin got into bed with various people at the club, thus 'taking sides'... Besides, didn't the forum 'evolve' each time? Exactly. Evolving is all about learning from previous mistakes isn't it? Anyway, democracy has won and the thread is now a sticky so you can be happy again! For what it's worth I'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Exactly. Evolving is all about learning from previous mistakes isn't it? Anyway, democracy has won and the thread is now a sticky so you can be happy again! For what it's worth I'll be there. Woot for democracy!! And thank you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Having had a discussion with the admin team we will put this up as a sticky as there seems to be a lot of people that would prefer we did. In the interests of forum democracy I will make it a sticky. Please be aware though that this demonstration is not being approved or promoted by SaintsWeb Ltd in any way and is only being made a sticky by popular demand. Fair enough. My compliements to the admin team. Didnt appreciate the low blow from you though........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 You're going to made to look very stupid.You will get (I'm being generous ) a couple of hundred max.Most of them if the "demo" outside St marys last time is anything to go by will be pikeys hoping to get on television. They will probably only get a couple of hundred, but they won't make themselves look stupid. For them to look stupid there needs to be people like you to laugh at them and Lowe Luvvies are an endangered species. What this small protest will achieve is to set the agenda. The main event will be after the game if we lose it. Should we lose to Swansea it's gonna be a massive protest and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Fair enough. My compliements to the admin team. Didnt appreciate the low blow from you though........ If you weren't so heavy handed in dishing out your views on here you may find you'd earn a little more respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Cheers for bringing it up with the admin team SoB. And cheers admin team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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